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Alternative OS News Article
Iyonix ARM Linux install CDs available
Published: 11th Aug 2003, 16:39:58GMT  Source: drobe.co.uk
By Chris Williams
Page 1 of 1
Debian install also caters for RiscPCs, Netwinders and others
Debian swirl logoPeter Naulls has made available today a set of Debian install CDs for ARM based systems. The CDs can be used to install complete working Debian Woody GNU/Linux systems on Iyonixes, RiscPCs, Netwinders and similar hardware. The installed Linux kernel is version 2.4.19, 2.4.19-rmk7-ds2-pn2 specifically.

Users intending to install Linux on an XScale powered Iyonix should first make themselves aware of the status of the Iyonix Linux project.

A single install CD can be purchased which provides a basic system or a full six CD set can be ordered. A month's worth of email support is included in the pricing of the CDs, telephone support costs a bit extra.

Peter informs us that the support documentation on the Iyonix Linux and Debian ARM resources websites is "undergoing revision" and it's expected that the sites will be updated in the next few days.

Don't forget that when installing Linux, you'll need a separate drive to install it on or alternatively, you should back up your data prior to repartitioning. Also, we're told CJE Micro's can prepare a harddisc for the ARM Linux install in new machines - contact them for more on that.

Links
chocky.org's ARM Linux and Debian ARM Resources including installing Debian linux on a RISC OS machine
Debian ARM install CDs
Peter is a drobe.co.uk editor

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skock (+1.9)
Face
11/8/03 11:07PM
How about a no support at all, do it yourself version available for download?
moss(valued user) 
Face
12/8/03 4:54PM
Excellent stuff :)
mrchocky(valued user) (-0.6)
Face
12/8/03 6:24PM
Nice that people moderated my comment down :-), but I don't see anyone else offering to help, only Skock volunteering my time to do something for free.
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Peter, drobe.co.uk
ninja(valued user) (+1.0)
12/8/03 7:27PM
I hear that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, chocky.

It might be worth pointing out that although a 'no support' option might seem a nice idea, users almost invariably expect a couple of basic questions to be answered, and even that level of support needs to be funded.

Incidentally, are there any plans to release the source?
mrchocky(valued user) (+1.4)
Face
12/8/03 7:58PM
And even mild insults are just plain pointless. Sigh. It's not sarcasm, just helping people understand the realities of the situation by making a few fun comments - note the smiley.

The source to what, precisely? There are around 11000 packages on the CDs - surely you don't mean those? The Iyonix kernel? The boot floppies changes? One of the RISC OS bits? I can only guess.

I've already had one person try to rant at me today over GPL (but later apologised, thankfully).
--
Peter, drobe.co.uk
ninja(valued user) 
14/8/03 3:03PM
OK, fair point about the smiley - I tend to not notice these graphical ones for some reason. Still, I didn't see any harm in answering skock's question more fully.

As for source, I'd assume the patches you made above and beyond the MVista patches - but that's your area of expertise, of course. As you point out, full source would be a rather valueless excercise.
mrchocky(valued user) 
Face
14/8/03 3:37PM
Kernel patches have been on Castle's site for some months in plain view, in the hope that people might help out. No one seems to have mustered enthusiasm, however.
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Peter, drobe.co.uk
nunfetishist(valued user) (+3.0)
14/8/03 4:13PM
I can only assume the reason is that few people can see/know of the advantages of doing it in the first place. Perhaps the best thing to do if you want more people to help is to do some active advertising about why it's worth doing, in the hope of enlightening people.

I find that people not seeing the point is the bain of all open-source development that requires others to participate.
ninja(valued user) (+2.5)
14/8/03 4:14PM
Sadly it's one of the features of the market these days (or maybe 'scene' is more appropriate) that there is a lack of people with both the enthusiasm and the ability left. At least that seems true in the RISC OS side of things; one might have hoped that a few of the old Acorn users who have now moved over to some flavour of unix would have been interested.

Okay, I guess the question is nullified if noone ever actually asks for any source.
Jaco(good user) (+1.0)
15/10/03 5:01PM
A manual to get started would be nice.
I used to be a crack C-programmer so I should be able to pick that up. I don't have time to figure out how to compile and where to find what in documentation and source though. If someone could point me to a step by step manual and a little problem to work on I might be able to help.
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