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X-Ample woos RiScript

By Chris Williams. Published: 30th Jun 2004, 23:02:58 | Permalink | Printable

32bit version flaunted

RiScript logoX-Ample are currently in talks with RiScript developers Roeland van den Bos and Jeroen Medema, who, according to X-Ample, are willing to continue development of the PDF authoring package. RiScript was distributed by Cerilica, however it's understood that the developers have ended their contract with Cerilica.

This should come as a relief to RiScript users, as there has been a growing concern of late as to the fate of the application. However, at the RISC OS Expo 2004 show, X-Ample demonstrated a 32bit compatible version of RiScript, which also included support for the full path clipping of objects and an updated choices system.

"Especially the path clipping stuff is a major improvement," Paul Reuvers of X-Ample told drobe.co.uk.

"I was very pleased to see one of my test pages (the exploded view of an Enigma wheel, drawn in ArtWorks, containing numerous graduated fills) being displayed correctly for the first time. Not only does it now render path clipping correctly, the clip path is now also exported with the document, so that it displays correctly on a PC."

The 32bit version of RiScript is currently in a beta release state. Paul wouldn't be drawn on the exact final release date, but added that it still needed some more work and it would be in users' hands "in the nearby future".

RiScript started life in 1992 as a free "poscript viewer and translator", and was later packaged up and sold commercially by Cerilica.

X-Ample are also working on Impression-X (no release dates, but "quite a bit is done now and it looks good" according to Paul), and also Tracer Professional (in beta at the moment, full release expected within the next few weeks).

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Great news about RiScript. 32/26 Bit compatible? I assume so. Would Tracer Professional new release be much better than the ImageOut image tracer that I have? I find that ImageOut may be handy but tends to make too many knots sometimes (knots: those blue or red square line intersecting points), and some traced images originally with graduaded shades of colours tend to come out in my ImageOut with too many layers as it tries to match the shaded graduations. I do need to spend more time with ImageOut to see if I can improve on it though. The samples shown on the Tracer Professional link page looks good although the image looks simple. I'm really holding out for this Impresion X. If I take an old Impression Publisher file (created under 26 Bit software), can I use that 26 Bit file if I had a new 32 Bit version of Impression, and including if I took that file across to Impression X (32 Bit) on an Iyonixs. In fact, does any 26 Bit created file from any older 26 Bit software work on an Iyonixs 32 Bit software? Are the 26 Bit files converted or neutrally accepted on the Iyonixs. Sorry if it sounds odd, but I don't know! Cheers, Steve.

 is a RISC OS UserSawadee on 1/7/04 2:24AM
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High quality PDF output is essential for many people. I glad to hear that development work is being done.

 is a RISC OS Userknutson on 1/7/04 2:27AM
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I saw the new RiScript at RISC OS Expo 2004 and wow - impressing. And it certainly was running on an IYONIX pc and is 32 bit compatible. The samples it had to show were pretty nasty but RiScript just did what you'd expect it to do and what the Cerilica RiScript does not: It shows the correct output with clipping.

Thanks Paul for this work (and your other engagenemts like HID and Impression X). :bowdown:

 is a RISC OS Userhzn on 1/7/04 7:03AM
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What version of the PDF specification will RiScript support? PDF is now at revision 1.5 and there are significant additions in 1.4/1.5 (like transparency, compressed objects) which would be useful.

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 1/7/04 8:07AM
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In reply to Sawadee... Tracer Pro will, indeed, be better than ImageOut. Certainly the demo and extensive chat I had with Paul at Wakefield proved that. Its very simple to use too, and the software has a very good pedigree.

As to files generated by a 26bit app, I have no problems using the same files on the Iyonix 32bit apps. ImpressionX will be no different.

Its really good news that X-Ample look like taking on RiScript.

 is a RISC OS UserEddie on 1/7/04 8:56AM
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How does it cope with scientific journal pdf's IE with symbol fonts etc? Also Impression print to pdf..... speculating here.

Cheers Bob; feels he is about to be modded down again

 is a RISC OS Usernijinsky on 1/7/04 9:28AM
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Sawadee: A piece of software that is 32-bit compatible but not 26-bit compatible as well would be called "Iyonix only", and not "32-bit compatible". Apart from Iyonix-specific system software Aemulor is about the only piece of software of this kind that springs to mind. So, of course, Impression-X will be 26-bit compatible as well. Regarding files: Please do not confuse matters. There are no "26-bit files". Files are files. Version Y of an application may or may not load files created by version X of an application, but this has absolutely nothing to do with 26/32-bit issues. I can assure you that Impression-X will load files created by the current versions of Impression.

Martin

 is a RISC OS Userwuerthne on 1/7/04 10:13AM
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nijinsky: I do not see any problems with scientific journal PDFs. RiScript makes use of embedded font information - this is one of its major advantages compared to the free !pdf viewer. Clipping is not that common in scientific papers, so even the current version of RiScript should cope well with them.

Martin

 is a RISC OS Userwuerthne on 1/7/04 10:14AM
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Swadee - Image Outliner allows you to adjust node frequency/cutoff in the settings window, this allows you to increase or decrease the node frequencey to suit the image.

 is a RISC OS Userarawnsley on 1/7/04 10:22AM
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Eddie & Martin: Thanks for the advice. It's encouraging to hear that Tracer Pro will be certainly worth it. I know my questions sometimes may sound dumb, I did assume that 26 Bit files are just files and assumed that X Ample would ensure the best of their Impression X product. Although I've had no real experience with 26/32 Bit, but understand your comments and I have had an X and Y version application experince in the past years. arawnsley: I haven't actually experimented with the node setting etc very much at all, but give it a try at various settings to see what happens. I have Impression Publisher, TextEase, a Demo of OvationPro, and EasiWriter that came with my RO4 upgrade. OvationPro looks quite good, but I prefer Impression Publisher though lacking in features by comparison but so easy to use. Cheers, Steve

 is a RISC OS UserSawadee on 1/7/04 11:03AM
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 is a RISC OS UserhEgelia on 2/7/04 12:55AM
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Has Drobe died?

I cant believe that no action has happened for two days?

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 2/7/04 5:42PM
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I think we're all waiting with baited breath for the outcome of the Castle v ROL dispute. (Well, I am!) Cheers!

 is a RISC OS UserThe Doctor on 2/7/04 6:08PM
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Well surely the dispute is now in the hands of lawyers? Knowing how long the legal process can take I would not be expecting a resolution of the dispute quite yet ;-).

 is a RISC OS Uservshears on 2/7/04 10:13PM
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Good news on Riscript. However, does this mean that Cerilica are really fading away?

 is a RISC OS UserTonyStill on 2/7/04 10:18PM
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"Has Drobe died?" "...waiting with baiting breath..."

I just finished reading an article about Japanese Pearl Diver's long 4 minutes+ breath and also how the early Greeks chewed a certain seaweed for long breath diving.

Nah! Drobe hasn't died while we wait with baiting breath! I reckon Drobe's swapped the Pizza habit this weekend for that Special Seaweed wrapped Japanese Sushi and ended up in a long slumber from the hot gases gone the wrong way down the system! Don't worry folks, the Drobe guys appear very bouyant, they'll resurface when least expected, I'm sure.

Sorry Drobe, I don't mean to be rude about you people really, we're just getting bored out here!

Cheers, Steve.

 is a RISC OS UserSawadee on 3/7/04 6:31AM
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"Sorry Drobe, I don't mean to be rude about you people really, we're just getting bored out here!"

(offtopic) As we're into summer now, developers are either on holiday or working on stuff for the two shows in the latter half of the year, so it becomes more tricky to find news. Don't panic, because, as always, there's about four articles in the queue, waiting to be finished and published.

Chris. Just me.

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 3/7/04 12:31PM
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G&T hasn't updated since the 30th either. There's not much news about anything at the moment.

Well, apart from Iraq. But that's NOT IMPORTANT.

 is a RISC OS Usermoss on 3/7/04 12:34PM
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In reply to Sawadee:

"You could always write one - Chris has always been very open to articles from people"

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 3/7/04 2:08PM
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How about this one:

My new album has been entirely produced on RISC OS...

and, er,

Did you know that a big company which produces light/lasershows on concerts use olde Archimedes machines to coordinate all... heard this at the recent Expo.

Alright, that's the best I can do atm :)

 is a RISC OS UserhEgelia on 3/7/04 5:14PM
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Where can we hear your album?

 is a RISC OS Userjonix on 3/7/04 5:39PM
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hEgelia:

You have mail.

Chris.

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 3/7/04 9:56PM
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diomus: I guessed you were busy and/or catching a well earned break, my comments were just boring teasing ones!! Moss: Iraq may become interested in RISC OS if we had Arab language support, the selling point could be that we are not American computers!! ;-) Markee174: The thought of writing an article did actually cross my mind, but what to write about didn't even make it into my mind! hEgelia: Maybe you would like to post an article on Drobe about your new album on RISC OS and more info about the light/lasershow? Or it looks like Chris may have emailed you already? It sounds interesting and maybe an article with a little difference. Cheers, Steve

 is a RISC OS UserSawadee on 4/7/04 5:56AM
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> Iraq may become interested in RISC OS if we had Arab language support, the selling point could be that we are not American computers

And also they're not fast enough to be considered munitions, sigh

 is a RISC OS Usermavhc on 4/7/04 3:04PM
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