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New mailing list for Omega users

By Chris Williams. Published: 23rd Aug 2004, 08:15:32 | Permalink | Printable

Wanna be in my gang?

Omega motifArchive magazine has set up a mailing list for the most exclusive club of RISC OS users: Omega owners. The list was created after Archive editor Paul Beverley started forwarding information via email to readers with Omegas, and decided to organise this effort into a mailing list.

"I've invited David Atkins to join the group, but I've not heard from him," Paul told us last night. "Having said that, I gather Microdigital are on holiday until Monday. However, Frank Kraaij of Microdigital Europe has joined the group and has already made a couple of very helpful comments about technical issues."

The new Archive list is open to Omega-owning subscribers only, but if you're particularly eager, contact Paul.

Update at 08:23 24/8/2004
Paul Beverley's asked for us add these points, as he writes, "Having seen the comments about the 'exclusivity' of Omega-on-Line, please can you tell your readers that if anyone really wants to read about, for example, which KVMs work on Omega, they only have to ask me and I'll let them join the list. Secondly, I've realised that my comment about [David Atkins] sounded criticial. Would you please apologise for me and say that it wasn't meant to be."

The Archive Omega mailing list, which has 25 subscribers to date and is growing daily, isn't supposed to be secret at all, and is "a service for Omega owners, especially as several of them were saying that they were unable to access the message boards on the Microdigital website", according to Paul.


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What's with all the secret mailing lists? Just looks like people have something to hide

 is a RISC OS Usermavhc on 23/8/04 9:25PM
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If I correctly recall the historical days of Acorn Computers, there weren't any "Clicky Clubs" exclusive from the mainstream of RISC OS computers as we seem to think these days. Is it really such a god idea to have RISC OS so divided just to get the choice of features etc? I really do hope I'm wrong, but all I know from experiences is that when you get many group divisions in something (like we have on RISC OS in recent years) you are sure to have problems. Regards, Steve

 is a RISC OS UserSawadee on 23/8/04 11:45PM
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I am on several lists and find that being able to opt in or out one way to control the volume and relevance of email.

Some groups are only really active when someone has a query or problem. Some like the Iyonix list are almost constant with queries and possible solutions. Unless you were a user of that machine I feel that most would become bored as the subjects would be of little relevance.

If the list was open to anyone interested it would go some way to being less exclusive ( if that was the intent in the first palce?!)

 is a RISC OS Userrmac on 24/8/04 12:51AM
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What better way to advertise your product than to let people see how you deal with problems and how happy people are with their purchases.

Unless of course they're not.

I propose none owners get at least read access either via email or web archives

 is a RISC OS Usermavhc on 24/8/04 2:39AM
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Sawadee: "If I recall the historical days of Acorn Computers..."

You don't. You've completely forgotten about Clan Acorn.


 is a RISC OS Userdgs on 24/8/04 3:13AM
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A mailing list for two people, whatever next?

 is a RISC OS Usersimo on 24/8/04 3:42AM
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In respnse to mavhc(a secret identity?)

You seem very negative; what is your grudge against MD. The Omega list seems no more secret than the Iyonix list . Do non-users have read access to that?

Simo : Flaunt your flatulence elsewhere.

 is a RISC OS Userian.l on 24/8/04 7:33AM
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Generally, anything of note on the Iyonix list gets reported on Drobe and The Icon Bar anyway - such as the PCI fix, USB betas, that sort of thing.

 is a RISC OS Usermonkeyson on 24/8/04 9:04AM
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Looks to me like another attempt from Paul Berverly to make an educated guess on the number of Omega owners. Unfourtunately it won't help much, because Omega owners seem to mostly be the type of users, who use a phone to get support, many have not even requested access to the Owners Club.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 24/8/04 9:15AM
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Some Omega owners cannot get any access to the Owners club

 is a RISC OS Userian.l on 24/8/04 11:12AM
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Or the Select list, or probably some lists about other hardware. I wasn't talking about this list (due to the line: but if you're particularly eager, contact Paul), just lists in general.

It just seems a great way to find out what normal people think about their purchases.

JGZ flies in with his "MD have sold so many machines Dell are getting worried" flag waving. Prove it.

 is a RISC OS Usermavhc on 24/8/04 11:13AM
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I think most RISC OS users are generally interested in what Microdigital are doing. Surely it must be in MDs interests to keep people interested and see the advantages of their machines....

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 24/8/04 11:32AM
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JGZimmerle>"Looks to me like another attempt from Paul Berverly to make an educated guess on the number of Omega owners"

Perhaps the more pertinent point is why is there an effort to obscure how many Omega users there are ? It is a *reasonable* question to try gauge this number. Developers (for example) would probably like to know is it worth their while developing stuff for Omega's specific features if there are too few potential customers/users to justify it. Potential buyers might also like to know - as the more fellow users there are the better "user community" support they might get.

Now if all developers, potential buyers and other interested parties get is glib replies like "Omega users used the phone" (quite) that does *nothing* to improve the public perception of that product. It leads to disquieting questions and people being wary of Omega - surely the last thing MD (or their ardent supports) should be doing.



 is a RISC OS UserAMS on 24/8/04 1:45PM
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JGZimmerle>"Looks to me like another attempt from Paul Berverly to make an educated guess on the number of Omega owners"

Paul Beverley has already asked that question so he already has such information. I can't see Paul being the sort of guy to waste time on such a elaborate scheme. Ironically, a user group offering support is likely to increase the attraction of MDs offerings.

This month, he has an MD update in archive magazine. Maybe he's frustrated with the lack of information and trying to do something constructive.

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 24/8/04 1:53PM
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Ian L.: Your Owners Club account has been given access to the private boards a few days ago.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 24/8/04 3:18PM
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JKGZ; Thanks for doing that, Julian. I had actually given up trying.

 is a RISC OS Userian.l on 24/8/04 5:14PM
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