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Qercus says sorry for lateness

By Chris Williams. Published: 16th Feb 2005, 16:13:03 | Permalink | Printable

New issue's in the post [Updated]

qercus logoMedia watch Qercus has apologised for its irregular printing schedule, stressing this week that it's "back on track". Although its subscribers have not seen an issue of the monthly magazine since October 2004, we're told that a new issue is now in the post.

John Cartmell, editor and publisher of Qercus, confessed: "We have had problems with recent issues of the magazine because of printing and administration issues. These are now resolved and issue 273 of the magazine is being posted out to subscribers this week."

John admitted that he doesn't "yet know how long it will take to get [the new issue] through the newsagent distribution system", so subscribers can ask for a copy direct from the magazine in the mean time. He added: "Be assured that subscriptions are calculated on the number of issues received so they will automatically be extended by the length of the delay."

Previous issues of the magazine have appeared in April, May, July and October. The inaugural issue of Qercus, formed after Acorn Publisher merged with Acorn User in 2003, was also late - again, John blamed administration headaches for the delay.

Issue 273 includes a show report and a preview of the A9home.

Update at 19:34 16/2/2005
We've learnt from well placed sources that the A9home preview was written after Qercus had a hands-on play with the A9home, a week before the machine was presented at a recent usergroup meeting. The machine was not signifcantly different to the unit reviewed by Drobe's Martin Hansen.


Qercus says sorry, issue 273 in the post Maybe if John stopped posting to Usenet so much, he'd have more time for the magazine? Hm?

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Heh - I was about to comment that what John does with his time is his own business. Then I checked the link...

*16,500* postings! Blimey heck.


 is a RISC OS Useradamr on 16/2/05 4:59PM
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A9home should be intersting.

 is a RISC OS UserRevin Kevin on 16/2/05 5:18PM
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The A9 is ONLY interesting if it runs on Risc OS ONLY !!!

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 16/2/05 7:21PM
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16,500? Don't exagerate! He's only made 1,710 postings since 1-Oct-2004 which is only about 380 a month or 12 a day or 1 every 31 minutes ...

 is a RISC OS Userjms on 16/2/05 10:25PM
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In reply to datawave

Do these articles from Drobe answer your concerns?



 is a RISC OS UserRevin Kevin on 16/2/05 10:58PM
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Well, hey - I'm just a messenger! Look at the link...

P.S. How does 24hrs/12hrs=31mins?

P.S. This comments system gets worse by the day - I thought *stars* were supposed to make things bold?

 is a RISC OS Useradamr on 16/2/05 11:03PM
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Hey??? Why did my stars work that time but not in my F1RST P0ST? Sorry, the correct spelling of that phrase is banned apparently! Clearly I should just stop even trying to understand the intracacies of the drobe comments system... rage :bowdown: :smash: heh heh, I'm ready for a good modding now!

 is a RISC OS Useradamr on 16/2/05 11:12PM
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datawave: Why? I'd prefer something like that to run both RO and Linux.

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 16/2/05 11:57PM
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in reply to Revin Kevin: Yes, thanks Kevin.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 12:10AM
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in reply to AndrewDuffell: OK, but they better leave this options open. Or a Risc OS one only or a Linux one only or both.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 12:14AM
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"P.S. How does 24hrs/12hrs=31mins?"

Serves me right for using "calc" on a PC, I suppose. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to work out the correct answer ...

 is a RISC OS Userjms on 17/2/05 8:01AM
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In reply to datawave:

Offering both Linux and RISC OS on the box must be good for sales and RISC OS and can only increase exposure of RISC OS.

I use RISC OS because I believe it is better than Linux or Windows for many things so giving users the comparison can only be good.

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 17/2/05 8:33AM
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Datawave: I'm confused as to the point you're making. It's an Arm-9 based machine from what I've read. It would therefore run RISC OS natively (assuming Select-32 has the neccessary hardware support, which from what I've read it does,) and could run ARMLinux, again if suitable hardware support is provided.

What else would you expect?

 is a RISC OS Usermd0u80c9 on 17/2/05 10:24AM
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In reply to markee74: I use RISC OS myself too, i am satisfied with it. I do not know Linux, i have heard about this and read about. But i prefer RISC OS above Linux and that stupid other Windows System. Above is ONLY my own opinion !!!

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 1:15PM
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In reply to md0u80c9: Everyone has his own opinion about this. For what you've read, it is indeed a Arm-9 Processor, that is correct. What i expect is as follows: That it finally supports all kind of Risc OS Computers and be damn fast than all other StrongArm Processors, It's about time we as Risc OS users get 3 Ghz.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 1:21PM
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In reply to datawave:

It is highly unlikely, given the current speed of ARM chips, that RISC OS will be running at 3Ghz for quite some time. Unless that is your counting Virtual Acorn.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 17/2/05 1:50PM
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In reply to sa110: If that is not possible than 2 Ghz. I do not have a Virtual Acorn, spare me! I only use 2 x RiscPC and 2 x Archimedes A-340 & A-420/1 and 1 x A4 for Risc OS.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 2:16PM
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Be very happy with 1 or max. 1.2 GHz in the foreseeable future. Risc os is ease of use and efficiency not clockspeed. Only when mobile phones, PDA's or other mass-produced ARM-users will need 3 GHz then there is a possibility that there will be a 3 GHz Risc OS.

 is a RISC OS Useregel on 17/2/05 3:00PM
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egel: Which is rather unfortunate, because it's numbers like that, rather than whether or not you actually need the power, that'll sell more computers and stop the ignorant from dismissing them on numbers alone.

Anyway, this is all going rather off-topic.

 is a RISC OS UserSimonC on 17/2/05 3:32PM
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In reply to Datawave:

Why not go to the Arm website and try to find a processor even remotely close to those speeds.

I think the fastest listed processor they advertise is only about 800mhz. Pathetic.

Even Samsung (who seem to have a thing for developing really fast Arm based processors) have only announced a speed of about 1.4Ghz for the Arm10 and that is just what they have achieved in the lab (I think). It is not readily available to the masses. Cheers!

 is a RISC OS Userfwibbler on 17/2/05 3:38PM
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You know, I'd be extremely happy if we'd get a decent, full-featured and stable browser, more PCI drivers and a bit of a software renaissence among us. And no more fooling around by CTL/ROL - Castle *must* press ahead with serious development of OS5, wether that be called Select or RO XP Pro or something...

Let RO crossing the ghz mark be a later priority, when, as Castle said, sufficient development has occurred for an Iyx Mk II to appear. The required hardware will definitely survive, we should be looking out for the (desktop version) OS and its software.

The A9home's speed will probably be comparable to a SARPC, excluding things like memory & disc speed, unless A6 decide to use another/faster ARM. I think it will only appeal to a certain group of users within the community though.

 is a RISC OS UserhEgelia on 17/2/05 3:43PM
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hEglia: "The A9Home's speed will probably be comŚparable to a SARPC.."

The numbers mentioned in the Drobe article are quite a bit higher 200 MHz.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 17/2/05 4:13PM
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Anyway, the biggest limit on the speed of a SA RPC is not the processor speed so much as 'things like memory & disc speed'

 is a RISC OS Userninja on 17/2/05 4:38PM
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fwibbler: Why is 800MHz being the fastest advertised "pathetic"? It is in terms of the number of MHz for a desktop processor, but that's not the market ARM are targetting. Why do people want really high-clocked ARM-powered RISC OS machines, other for swapping stats? A bit more than current would be nice, that's undeniable, but the only time most high-spec PCs get pushed is when playing games.

ninja: Isn't the memory issue what the Kinetic was designed to get around? I'll wait for the flood of flames for this one, but I would imagine that hardware FP on a slightly faster processor would ultimately be more useful than a much faster integer one.

 is a RISC OS UserSimonC on 17/2/05 5:05PM
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In reply to egel: Don't wait for more Ghz, make them earlier available, before those users asking for it.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 5:24PM
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SimonC: I honestly don't notice much difference between my 233 SA-RPC, and our Kinetic RPC, or an overclocked 200 SA-RPC. Although there probably is a difference with some more processor intesive tasks.

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 17/2/05 5:26PM
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In reply to fwibbler: 800 Mhz is indeed pathatic in these years. 1.4 Ghz as well. I bet that ARM have a faster processor available, if it is only for development purposes.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 5:30PM
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Let us all hope, that John Cartmell is gonna have those Quercus issues on time now, let us say every month now !!!

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 5:35PM
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What software do you use that requires so much processing power? As someone mentioned before, it's usually only games which require rediculous amounts of power. Gamers have moved to other platforms, so it's really not a problem.

 is a RISC OS Userfylfot on 17/2/05 5:39PM
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datawave: A little bit of rationality on your part, I think. I bet ARM don't have any processors (in the sense that you mean) - they don't make them, after all, only design them.

Precisely how do you qualify "pathetic"? As we all know, for many tasks, a RiscPC is still very fast.

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 17/2/05 6:31PM
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Have you forgotten why CPU speed is of less importance to us?

It is sad that we have entered the numbers game like the rest. :-(

Personally I would prefer to see hardware floating point calculation (there is a maths chip for the ARM9 it would seem - although I doubt whether an embedded device would need one though... :frown: )

On a lighter note at least the querkyness made it in the end... :-)

 is a RISC OS UserROHC on 17/2/05 6:33PM
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In reply to fylfot: I use VideoBase 7.00, that is asking much processing power, i.e. searching for video covers and information about about it. Also for dlownloading AVI, MPEG demo's. VideoBase is not available in the Risc OS market, i have made that and i only use that.

 is a RISC OS Userdatawave on 17/2/05 6:35PM
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Because your English isn't very precise, I'm not entirely certain what you've said. But it seems to me that you're demanding much faster CPU speeds, because the (presumably) simple database that you wrote requires much more speed. That does seem a little selfish - perhaps your database needs speeding up?

As for VirtualRPC, you might not like it, but you must understand that without it, they might be rather fewer users still around, less money going around, and the market would be far worse off.

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 17/02/05 7:37PM
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IMHO this whole argument, that we don't need more processing power is complete rubbish. There are a lot of applications wich would benefit a lot from much faster processors, almost everything to do with multimedia for a start. If there was a 3GHz RISC OS computer available for the price of an Omega or Iyonix now, I bet almost everyone in the market would buy one within a year. And that even though it would not even come near the speed of a 3GHz PC or Mac, simply because modern desktop CPUs have at least two integer units (not just one like the ARM) plus at least one FPU plus several dedicated SIMD (single instruction multiple data) extensions. But I guess what we are lacking most is fast RAM. Just look at the data transfer rates of an Iyonix and compare that to the ones of VRPC on modern PC hardware.

It would be interesting to see what could be done on a PC based system with an 800MHz ARM-PCIe card accelerating VRPC for Linux.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 17/02/05 9:59PM
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speed is not the issue - FP is...

 is a RISC OS UserROHC on 17/02/05 10:10PM
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The FP issue is part of the speed issue.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 17/02/05 11:07PM
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Mhz is not the issue. That is why our SGI is better for 3Ddeconvolution than the top end WindowsPC next to it. Would the Mhz brigade suggest that a windowsPC is better than an SGI for 3D graphics?


 is a RISC OS Useranon/ via on 18/02/05 12:17AM
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It's all very well touting Ghz here there and every where, but RISC OS does not really have the software to take full advantage of 3Hz processors.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 18/02/05 6:55PM
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In reply to Paul:

I think we can push 3Hz to the limit! :D

 is a RISC OS UserRimmer on 19/02/05 11:40AM
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@Paul: That is true, but then why should someone develop a piece of software that does not run (fast enough) on existing hardware. In the PC world, hardware development goes on and on and people get relatively up to date hardware every few years. Software authors then find ways to use the extra power.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 19/02/05 4:29PM
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Of course, there usually are a few exceptions, where some software runs a bit slow on existing hardware and benefits from faster hardware.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 19/02/05 4:30PM
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RISC OS5 doesn't even yet exploit the XScale to its full advantage - let alone what the graphics card may offer,,,

So the hardware is here & all we are waiting on is the drivers... :-)

 is a RISC OS UserROHC on 19/02/05 11:47PM
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In PC land this a quite normal situation. Very little software uses the hardware efficiently. But it does not have to, if you can get a 1.5GHz CPU for 45,- EUR. It simply is cheaper to upgrade the hardware than to optimise the software. Only where the performance with current hardware would not be sufficent otherwise, the software might get good optimisations, if you're lucky.

 is a RISC OS UserJGZimmerle on 21/02/05 01:10AM
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