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Light at end of Impression-X tunnel

By Chris Williams. Published: 15th Mar 2005, 18:55:42 | Permalink | Printable

Easy does it, easy does it

Impression-X logoA few concerned readers have contacted us, forever wondering where Impression-X is. In our previous update, X-Ample said they were still working hard on producing a 32 bit version of the popular DTP application despite devoting time to other more financially rewarding projects, adding that we should expect a CD version soon.

We've since learnt that no such release has materialised and now users are growing uneasy as to the fate of their documents locked in Computer Concepts' proprietary Impression file format. This raises the question of just how much data and information is there locked away on old file formats, which can only be opened by long forgotten legacy software.

An X-Ample developer told us earlier today that work on finishing Impression-X is "going rather well and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel". We suggested that maybe they could offer the work to another interested programmer, however X-Ample's view is, "it's an immense job. The program is very complex and consists of over 100 source files that all interact with each other".

Dealer CJE Micros confirmed that, as of a few months ago, X-Ample's Paul Reuvers had made "significant progress but still had a way to go". They also currently have a number of Impression Publisher Plus and Impression Style copies in stock, should anyone fear an Impression drought or need a 26 bit copy. Coincidentally, a new demo version of Ovation Pro for Windows is available, which expires towards the end of April.

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I was delighted to be able to use my old copy of Impression Style under Aemulor on my Iyonix PC last month. I can see that an upgraded version would be nice, but at the moment I am quite happy with my 1996 vintage 26 bit version.

 is a RISC OS UserJWCR on 15/3/05 7:45PM
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I agree. Amazingly good really. And after all this time I have just found out you can get rid of CCShared from the Boot file as well.

 is a RISC OS UserEddie on 15/3/05 7:57PM
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eddie: And put it where instead? Where do you keep your 'shared' libraries? :) -- Spriteman

 is a RISC OS UserSpriteman on 15/3/05 9:05PM
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Ovation Pro is far better anyway.

 is a RISC OS Usermoss on 15/3/05 9:09PM
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To moss: Sorry to object, but for me personally Impression has the edge. This is partially due to being used to it (I publish GAG-News using Impression for 13 years now). And to some extent due to the features and the way things work.

But looking at the features and the way things can be done both have their merits and both have their down sides. As for PostScript output Impression does a very good job even managing different dpi/lpi for images on one page and the way it does master pages is the way I like it. I use OPro for the odd task and like the applet interface but some things work differently and that in a way which is ok but not the way I like (am used to) it.

But as I tried to make clear, both are good products and as to what one you prefer I guess it's a bit like the good ol' Zap-or-StrongED discussion.

 is a RISC OS Userhzn on 16/3/05 6:30AM
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Here's hoping that the Impression-X will improve indexing. It would be fantastic to be able to highlight a word and click on an INDEX button to add to the dynamic index.

 is a RISC OS Userrmac on 16/3/05 6:41AM
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In reply to spriteman:

On my Iyo, I have the latest AWViewer from Martin Wuerthner in !Boot.Resources. All the modules in RMStore have been copied to Impression. You will also need read the notes by Martin about how to use AWrender with Impression. HTH

 is a RISC OS UserEddie on 16/3/05 7:40AM
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"[Impression files] can only be opened by long forgotten legacy software"

Ovation Pro loads Impressions files and is available for all versions of RISC OS and Windows.

Adam

 is a RISC OS Useradamr on 16/3/05 10:06AM
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to hzn: OvationPro can manage different lpi settings for any single image, where ever in the document, plus a lot more. Actually, image manipulation is one of the many things where OPro outperforms Impression largely. But for a program that lacks any maintainance since many years, Impression is still remarkably good, indeed.

 is a RISC OS Userdelink on 16/3/05 1:37PM
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hmm would there be at least a free impression X file reader under Windows?

would be nice to get the old thing out / buy the new version and produce better documents than word again....then get the rest of the office to be able to read them!.....;@)

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 16/3/05 1:41PM
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Any idea on the pricing?

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 16/3/05 1:51PM
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If you just want your colleagues to be able to read the files, print them out to pdf and distribute that instead. When they ask how you're able to produce such professional looking documents so quickly, you can show them Impression.

 is a RISC OS Userninja on 16/3/05 8:47PM
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lol i dont think impression will ever convert them, i dont think anything will!

Sometimes you dont always want to export to pdf....that means having to remember to print it out, if the file is stored on our file server, then I can access the file from our meeting rooms, to show the progress...without preparation first, it would be a pulling point!

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 17/3/05 1:48PM
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Normal people don't understand that RISC OS apps are easier to use/better, I think they live in a state of total confusion wrt computers, and they don't notice that they're more confused now.

Make a Java file reader, then it'll work on any OS, (except RISC OS, bah)

 is a RISC OS Usermavhc on 17/3/05 11:55PM
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sweet didnt think of that one ;@)

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 18/3/05 9:18AM
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For me one of the most desireable features to have in a new version of Impression would be a decent UNDO-feature - the more steps the better. I have missed it all the time and this is one (of many) points where Ovation outperforms its rival. But nevertheless - I still use them both and the implementation of the named UNDO could persuade me to upgrade to the expected X-Ample version. If it will arrive some day ...

 is a RISC OS UserRiscyJan on 20/3/05 10:34AM
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For a lot of purposes I always found !Impression most useful and still do. However, a wider range of Export would be very useful, e.g. export to html with pictures etc. included.... I think I'll be a new, more versatile version :-) IF it every appears... Yo

 is a RISC OS Useryoyojon on 21/3/05 10:04PM
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ooops.....sorry.... in my entry above "be" in the 4th line should be "buy", of course. I apologize for the typo. Yo

 is a RISC OS Useryoyojon on 21/3/05 10:08PM
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I do like Ovation Pro even if I only have briefly played with the demo version.

I always have preferred Impression Publisher because it is so simple, user friendly and quick to use. I have EasiWriter under my RO4 and for a while now have owned and used TextEase which is not a bad program either.

I am considering buying Ovation Pro when the release of ImpressionX eventuates so that I can use Ovation Pro to import Impression and then export to Words?

I hope this is still possible with the new ImpressionX and Ovation Pro?

Thinking about what yoyojon said in the last comment, if ImpressionX will export to HTML, then can that HTML file now be imported into Word?

I would like to find or have a way of ImpressionX exporting and importing to Word, if it does not have this feature in the new release.

This I find would be most useful in my school and PC environment.

 is a RISC OS UserSawadee on 22/3/05 12:26AM
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Until there's a Java file reader, you can at least get some idea of what your old documents look like by using a Python import filter for Skencil:

[link]

Ideally, someone would write an import filter for Scribus, maybe as a script, then old documents could be edited again on open systems:

[link]

 is a RISC OS Userdavidb on 23/3/05 2:26PM
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