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Nick Burrett quits GCCSDK project

By Chris Williams. Published: 11th Jun 2005, 15:34:59 | Permalink | Printable

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GCC compiling somethingFellow programmers have paid tribute to GCCSDK project manager Nick Burrett, who yesterday announced that he will be departing from the project. The freely available GCCSDK includes the RISC OS port of the popular GCC C/C++ compiler and other libraries, such as Unixlib which provides a Unix functionality layer over RISC OS.

Work began on the GCC project in 1994, and Nick had planned to leave the team once GCC 3.0 was released, however he continued on for another four years afterwards despite selling his RISC OS machine in 1996. For the past five months, he has worked full time on GCCSDK - notably GCC 4.1, ELF support, QEMU work and Unixlib updates, with the aid of emulators Red Squirrel and QEMU.

Explaining his stepping down from GCCSDK, Nick told stunned developers, "I've grown tired of it and would like to do something else now. I thank all those who have used the SDK over the years, commented on it, developed it, tested it etc. It has certainly helped to reduce the workload".

He added, "I will place my RISC OS/ELF changes for GCC 4.1 and Binutils and my QEMU/RISC OS emulator onto the gccsdk.riscos.info FTP next week, marking my end to the project."

Peter Naulls, who is due to move to the US in August, also noted shortly after: "I'm not sure there's anyone else who knows the compiler and all the tools as well [as Nick]. I too after the summer will no longer be able to spend as much time on the project, after a move to the US, but intend to remain involved as much as practical."

Coder John Tytgat responded to Nick, saying, "I understand you taking this decision and of course hate to see you go. Many thanks for the incredible amount of GCCSDK work you did." Programmer Theo Markettos also commented: "I can only say that I'm amazed at the amount of work that Nick and Peter [Naulls] have put in and how you've had time to do it. Comparing the situation back in 1997 with what we have today, I think if you suggested back then that we'd be able to run something as complex as Firefox I wouldn't have believed it. In my opinion this project has been the most significant software development on this platform for a number of years and I thank you for that."


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So that's two programmers who RISC OS has semi-lost is it not? :(

 is a RISC OS UserAW on 11/6/05 4:29PM
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Thanks for misquoting me :-|

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 11/6/05 7:06PM
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I didn't mean to mis-quote anybody and wasn't aware I had made any quote. Mis-understood or mis-portrayed possibly.

 is a RISC OS UserAW on 12/6/05 12:03AM
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Peter never said he had stopped working on software for RISC OS, or would stop working on software for RISC OS. You might imagine all sorts of problems with his boat or plane or ice bridge to the USA, but your original comment seems to exaggerate things. (If he is likely to become lost, I will ask someone to give him a compass).

Obviously Peter will be busy for a while, and probably won't be working full time on RISC OS coding, but neither do most people...


 is a RISC OS Userdgs on 12/6/05 2:38AM
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I was actually referring to misquotes in the article, which completely changed what I meant, and took what I said out of context, by quoting from half way through a sentence. Trying to mod me down isn't going to change that.

If you refer to what I actually said, and a crucial item missing from the article is my reluctant suggestion that I will take over full administration of the project (previously, I'd been doing releases and other small tasks).

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 12/6/05 3:43AM
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Sigh. Next time I find a bug in your software, I'll post a comment here for everyone to see instead of sending you a private email. Have you fixed the snprintf() fault in Unixlib yet?

Back to your point: unless you were misrepresented and what was quoted was not substantially true, then you were not misquoted - do you not agree with what is shown in the quotes, taken from your email?

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 12/6/05 10:09AM
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Oh right. Peter I didn't mod you down (not sure if you're thinking that).

 is a RISC OS UserAW on 12/6/05 10:29AM
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Alternatively, you could contact me, as the likely defacto project admin. As you know, cooperating with developers often results in a better article.

And yes, if you find a bug in GCCSDK/UnixLib (please adhere to the captilisation), I'd be happy for you to post it to the (public) GCCSDK mailing list or bug database.

As you know, the snprintf bug was fixed by me (although I didn't break it) quite some time ago after discussion on the GCCSDK, so I'm not sure why you think it appropriate to mention it.

As for my quote - yes, it completely changes what I meant for reasons I already explained. Whether I agree with it or is another matter, as you could clearly come up with any number of things which I might potentially agree with.

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 12/6/05 11:26AM
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Somebody has marked me down now! :rolleyes:

 is a RISC OS UserAW on 12/6/05 3:47PM
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From [link]

"As for future administration of the project, ideally, I didn't really want to take that on (even though I've done the last few releases), but I'm not sure there's anyone else who knows the compiler and all the tools as well. Of course, as you probably now know, I too after summer will no longer be able to spend as much time on the project, after a move to the US, but intend to remain involved as much as practical."

The quote in the article doesn't, to my mind, completely misrepresent what you said.

 is a RISC OS UserJaffa on 12/6/05 8:10PM
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Well, in the original email, the phrase "I'm not sure there's anyone else who knows the compiler and all the tools as well" is referring to Peter himself, whereas in the article above, the added "[as Nick]" changes it to make it appear Peter was talking about Nick. Seems quite clear to me.

 is a RISC OS Usermatthew on 12/6/05 11:06PM
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I have to agree with Peter (and various others); removing the first part of the sentence changes the meaning very significantly. The version in the article implies that he sees things grinding to a halt, whereas he's actually taken on additional work administrating it (to ensure that doesn't happen) despite the other calls on his time.

 is a RISC OS Userchrisj on 12/6/05 11:45PM
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Surely, as Chris says, if Drobe has misquoted someone, they should contact the Editor privately, not in public forums. This applies to any other quibbles. Comments here are supposed to be about the actual story, not the quality of the article.

 is a RISC OS Userarenaman on 13/6/05 12:48AM
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Considering Drobe has demonstrated in the past that it's quite happy to fling private emails into the open, then you may as well save time and make your point in public, on the forums. Let it bite both ways.

 is a RISC OS UserSimonC on 13/6/05 10:03AM
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