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Community-produced RISC OS 5.14 in final testing

Published: 7th Dec 2008, 19:09:52 | Permalink | Printable

A RISC OS 5 ROM image produced from RISC OS Open's shared source project and code contributed by volunteer programmers has been submitted to Castle for testing. Once it has passed a round of QA, Castle, aka Iyonix Ltd, is expected to ship the new ROM image to end users. A copy of the ROM image, which is suitable for XScale-powered Iyonix computers, is available for download now for anyone crazy enough to test it on their hardware. ROOL's Steve Revill said: "This ROM build includes a snapshot of all the latest updates and submissions to the shared source project from the community."

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Great news.

 is a RISC OS UserAW on 8/12/08 12:20AM
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Hopefully they will have got a softloader working soon, so you wont have to risk bricking your Iyonix by reprogramming the flash.

 is a RISC OS Userdruck on 8/12/08 9:26AM
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Anybody seriously considering developing RISC OS like this really should obtain a JTAG probe. They're not expensive. Perhaps ROOL should put some information on their site about known working combinations?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/12/08 9:32AM
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Indeed!

 is a RISC OS Userhzn on 8/12/08 10:03AM
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Flurry of good news, of late.

But theres an issue; considering we now have 4.02 available for £5 and hopefully an immanent release from ROOL gratis, there should be some outside interest developed.

Consider this, you see a news item on some tech website, you follow the links and end up on either riscos.com or iyonix.com. Bad start, very bad start. Trying to find anything from either is a pretty big job.

Assuming you get past this point and manage to make some sense of the scene, you discover that the available options for OS are as follows,

4.02 4.39 5.14 5i1 6.14

None of which are considered obsolete, most of which are interelated in the most ridiculous fashion. Oh, and they aren't in chronological order.

So, an idea or two. Firstly that the old websites, esp. riscos.com, is given a good going over - or redirects you to a new index page with links to the clear options. Ideally both parties could agree on a collective front website which would link back to them.

Secondly, that the current numbering is ditched. I.e. "RISC OS 5.14" becomes RISC OS Iyonix 1.14; RISC OS OPEN is known, when released, as RISC OS OPEN version 1 Clear up the confusion over 6 and Select by dropping one name or the other, ideally distinguishing it as an 'enhanced' version - a sort of Windows Vista Ultimate for 4.39 users.

We really need that one page which links to them all in a clear and distinguishable way, and for them to have clear and distinguishable names.

 is a RISC OS UserMonty on 8/12/08 1:39PM
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Well initally there was RO 4.xx in 26 bit by ROL and then 5.xx in 32 bit by CTL. Things were nice and clean those days (well while we had Acorn around even cleaner...)

And then ROL decided to name their version 6.xx to make the version numbers less clean... and just to increase confusion they call it "RISC OS Select xiy" with different x's and y's and even named one version "RISC OS Adjust" - perhaps some future version will pick up on the third mouse button....

Since both RO threads are "RISC OS" versions and RO5 is not intended to be IYONIX only and "RISC OS Open" is already there those names are no option.

Perhaps the open source RO5.x and whatever follows should be called "RISC OS Future" (not "RISC OS Ultimate" since Microsoft might claim a copyright for that name as OS name) or the like ;-)

 is a RISC OS Userhzn on 8/12/08 4:48PM
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"Perhaps the open source RO5.x and whatever follows should be called "RISC OS Future" (not "RISC OS Ultimate" since Microsoft might claim a copyright for that name as OS name) or the like"

Why not simply call it "Open RISC OS" (perhaps in lower case underneath it - the shared source version of RISC OS), bit like Novell do with their SUSE Linux.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 8/12/08 6:10PM
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We're not going to call it RISC OS Iyonix when there's every chance of us building a version for the RiscPC - i.e. something which runs on RPCemu.

But I do agree with your general points.

Back to the original topic, yes we are working on the softloader and we will ask Castle what they do about JTAG to see if they have something they can put on our Wiki about it.

 is a RISC OS Userriscosopen on 8/12/08 1:42PM
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In reply to riscsoopen:

You wrote "...we will ask Castle ...".

Out of interest, what are Castle up to these days?

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 8/12/08 2:33PM
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I suggest even numbers for ROL versions and odd numbers for open versions. That should be simple enough to follow.

 is a RISC OS Userjess on 8/12/08 3:25PM
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Is there a list of things changed or updated in RO5.14 ? Not that I have an Iyonix, I'm just curious :)

 is a RISC OS Userhighlandcattle on 8/12/08 4:43PM
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I think if we put a copy of the 5.13 'products' file into cvs, one could diff the two in order to see what versions of which components have changed. Then, you could use that to extract the cvs logs for those changes.

It's something we don't have any automated facility to do right now but maybe someone out there might feel the urge to write a suitable tool...

 is a RISC OS Userriscosopen on 8/12/08 4:46PM
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Great, now all I need is my Iyonix to come back to life. It seems to have died this evening :(

 is a RISC OS UserSimonC on 10/12/08 10:53PM
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Great car't wait to install it - could be a late Christmass present. My thanks to all that made this possible.

 is a RISC OS Userjlavallin on 14/12/08 10:36AM
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