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RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free

Published: 16th Aug 2009, 15:45:19 | Permalink | Printable

Volumes 1 to 8 of RISCWorld, a now defunct bi-monthly CD magazine, can now be read for free online. The extensive archive dates from March 2000 through to April 2008, although the latest volume, number nine, is still on sale and has not been published for all to peruse. The articles cover a range of topics from programming tutorials to reviews and news, which provide a welcomed boost in online documentation of the RISC OS platform, as well as wonderfully hilarious rants like this one by RW editor Aaron Timbrell.

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The rants were the only bit I ever read.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 4:00PM
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Since you were never a subscriber I doubt you ever read any of it.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 17/8/09 4:33PM
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Why do you doubt that? Do you seriously think all your subscribers cherished each and every copy, rather than passing them on after they were done with?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/8/09 8:05PM
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Sorry, I forgot you were a freetard.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 18/8/09 8:42AM
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If you feel the need to insult everybody who only spends money on things that are good value, then you've made an excellent business choice.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 9:32AM
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I apologise for the delay in replying, I was dealing with something important.

I had a quick look at the UrbanDictionary before using the word "Freetard". You read the magazine without paying for it so the definition(s) look accurate. If you don't like it then that's your problem.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 18/8/09 5:02PM
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Fortunately, I'm grown up enough not to list the words in the Urban Dictionary that match you :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 9:16PM
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MORE handbags!

 is a RISC OS UserMonty on 19/8/09 1:28PM
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Nobody managed to spell product names as consistently wrong as Dave Holden/RISCWorld - see the CDBurn and CDVDBurn reviews for example...

And it sports those two sentences that have probably cost me most of my CDVDBurn pre-sales support time: "[...]note that standard RISC OS 4 cannot read DVD's (a good reason to upgrade to Select or Adjust). RISC OS 5 on the Iyonix cannot read DVDs either[...]"

Of course, others were happy to spread this myth, without checking the facts :-(

 is a RISC OS Userhubersn on 16/8/09 4:18PM
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If you can point me to the article then I will happily correct it.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 17/8/09 4:22PM
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Bit late now. Although if you like, you can go through all the issues and replace Netsurf with NetSurf.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/8/09 8:05PM
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It hardly seems worth correcting the odd typo for a product that's no longer being developed for RISC OS.

Anyway my offer was to correct something for Steffen. I'm happy to do that for him as he actually supports RISC OS.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 18/8/09 8:39AM
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"It hardly seems worth correcting the odd typo for a product that's no longer being developed for RISC OS."

Woah, and now it becomes clear why your rag-on-a-CD was so hideously inaccurate and awful; you can't read.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 9:33AM
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Whatever, your opinion has been noted and ignored.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 18/8/09 5:08PM
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Handbags!

 is a RISC OS Userdruck on 18/8/09 6:45PM
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From using your own search facility on the RISCWorld website, the article that annoys Steffen is:

[link]

 is a RISC OS UserIvanDobski on 20/8/09 9:12AM
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Well seeing as I wrote this article I think I am in a position to comment on this. At the time of writing (and publication) RISC OS 5 could NOT read DVDs at all, you only have to look at all the RISC OS media press at the time to show that this was the case.

See [link]

And

[link]

To back this up, both articles quite clearly state that RISC OS 5 cannot use DVDs and that on RISC OS 4 you need Select or Adjust which is exactly what I wrote. So if anyone was wrong it was the press releases and publicity at the time.

The Iyonix could not read DVDs to start with, I know this because I tried the Foundation DVD on my Iyonix and it didn't work, however when Castle released RISC OS 5.9 this problem was cured and it could read DVDs fine.

I actually did a follow up piece saying exactly this but nobody seems to have bothered to read this or mention it. This article can be found here can be found here

[link]

Which quite clearly states that RISC OS 5 can NOW read DVDS fine, complete with a screenshot of the DVD directory on my Iyonix desktop.

So I don't know what the criticism is of this article because when I wrote it it was correct, and did a follow up afterward to let people know it did now work.

 is a RISC OS UserMThompson on 20/8/09 10:14PM
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Many articles stated that RISC OS 5 CDFS was unable to read DVDs. That is correct, and a lot of people have repeated this myth.

However, it was always that - a myth. As long as the DVD's logical format is ISO9660, even RISC OS 3.10 can read DVDs. It is just a case of having a compatible CDFSSoft*/drive combination. And that was what Castle did with RO 5.09 (or a similar version, I don't remember precisely): make the CDFSSoftATAPI work better with some drives, and obviously you owned one of those drives that profited from that change.

However, this does not change the fact that RO versions before 5.09 could read DVDs if you used the right drive - e.g. the Lite-On DVD writer that was recommended to be used with CDVDBurn.

 is a RISC OS Userhubersn on 20/8/09 11:19PM
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Interesting comments on this, particulary as this shows that what was published in the RISC OS media was clearly wrong then, Everywhere I was reading it was stating RISC OS 5 won't read DVDs, as shown in the those links I quoted.

So you could see how so much confusion appeared with so much mis-information around, even the DVD author was saying it wouldn't work on the Iyonix even though it was created on one !!!

Anyway for anyone reading who isn't sure DVD's CAN be read on RISC OS 5 !!

So apologies to you Steffen if any of what I wrote has wasted your time, it certainly wasn't meant to, and hopefully it wasn't too much time lost in the end, as i'm sure we'd all rather you spent that time working on CDVDburn instead - an excellent program which I use often, I just wish I could burn MP3s to audio CDs through it, any chance of it happening? don't mind if it's a payable upgrade.

 is a RISC OS UserMThompson on 21/8/09 7:13AM
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"To back this up, both articles quite clearly state that RISC OS 5 cannot use DVDs and that on RISC OS 4 you need Select or Adjust which is exactly what I wrote. So if anyone was wrong it was the press releases and publicity at the time."

Was CDROMFS not available then?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 11:59PM
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From memory I can't remember, i'd have to check the release date but for a while !CDROMFS did work on RISC OS 5, an update did come along later on and it now works fine.

I have to say that CDROMFS is an excellent utility as the CDFS on RISC OS 5 doesn't seem to work properly and does have problems reading certain CDs/DVDs but if you use !CDROMFS it works fine.

I used to have the same problem on RISC OS 4 but Select solved that problem, so clearly the same thing happens in RISC OS 5.

 is a RISC OS UserMThompson on 21/8/09 7:06AM
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He seems to like to go on about classic cars as well.

 is a RISC OS UserIvanDobski on 17/8/09 12:18PM
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The links to volume 8 are messed up, and all point to volume 7. However if you manually alter the URL you can see volume 8.

 is a RISC OS UserIvanDobski on 17/8/09 12:28PM
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Thanks - I did know about the broken links to volume 8 in the issue picker, but hadn't got round to fixing it. It's now been done and I've uploaded corrected pages.

I have also added a link to the main www.riscworld.co.uk site on the articles page that Drobe has linked to.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 17/8/09 4:15PM
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Amidst all of the nit-picking I'd like to say 'thanks' for this, Aeron.

I could do with a 'summer read'.

Regards, Martin.

 is a RISC OS Usermartin on 18/8/09 10:21AM
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a question is the software available so we can all play star fighter 3000 please

 is a RISC OS Usermicrobits on 18/8/09 10:32AM
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Yes, although you will need to buy either the volume you want on CD (for a tenner or so), or the DVD collection with all 9 volumes plus all the software. Have a look at:

[link]

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 18/8/09 5:05PM
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Some good stuff there... eg the full text of the Archimedes Game Makers Manual, BASIC V: A Dabhand Guide, First Steps with RISC OS 4, ArtWorks Made Easy, Budget DTP, Graphics on the ARM and ARM Assembly Language Programming. And quite a few interesting articles.

Thanks, Aaron, for putting it online.

 is a RISC OS Usercaliston2 on 19/8/09 3:17PM
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It's a pleasure, although Dave Holden needs some of the credit as well.

Too much RISC OS stuff gets lost with time. RISCWorld has published a lot of good stuff over the years and it makes sense for it to be available on-line for al rather then languishing on a harddisc somewhere.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 19/8/09 3:23PM
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This is a great addition to the online RISC OS resources and thank you very much to those involved for their efforts.

To those making negative comments: PLEASE stop. It will be the first thing potential RISC OS users pick up on -- and the quickest way to turn them off.

 is a RISC OS UserDrWhich on 19/8/09 8:42PM
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Oh come on, no one who isn't a RISC OS user is going to look at RISC OS in this day and age.

 is a RISC OS Userdruck on 19/8/09 10:10PM
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For what it's worth the squabbling doesn't make any noticeable difference. The Amigans have never stopped squabbling and they have a few thousand users. The Be-lievers work hard to show a united face in public, and their numbers are hard to estimate, but perhaps not much more than the Amigans... People who get into retro-computing tend to either be all about nostalgia, and thus their platform choice is associated with happy memories from their youth, or else they're like Indie Rock Pete and actively choose a platform because it's unpopular. A bit of chair-throwing makes no difference.

 is a RISC OS Usertialaramex on 19/8/09 11:09PM
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If there are people who are considering /becoming/ RISC OS users, they need warning off.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:27AM
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No one who is going to be looking at RISC OS these days will be going to use it in isolation.

They will be using it in addition to another OS. As such the lack of certain features in RISC OS won't matter, as they have another OS that can be used where RISC OS can't.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 20/8/09 10:46AM
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Perhaps. I've never understood why people would want two computers, one that can do everything, and another that can't.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 11:06AM
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People may have two or more computers for all sorts of reason. People who like to use RISC OS, have two computers because this. They use RISC OS for many things and their Windows/Mac for stuff which they can't do under RISC OS. It's down to personal preference.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 20/8/09 11:47AM
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Many people want only one computer, but multiple OSes. It is not unheard of that even die-hard Mac or Linux fans also use Windows for certain tasks.

 is a RISC OS Userhubersn on 20/8/09 4:00PM
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Shame on you for writing such a thing.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 20/8/09 11:44AM
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Why?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 3:03PM
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Perhaps it might be worth explaining what you meant. What exactly would any new users need "warning off" for/from?

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 20/8/09 3:32PM
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Expensive hardware, an unreliable OS, expensive applications that are broadly incompatible with modern standards, no browser that'll do what they want, and confusion over the legal situation of it all anyway?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 4:05PM
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Some of which might be true - but all of it totally irrelevant.

Hardware - there is plenty of hardware for sale on eBay and the market dictates the prices. Anyway you don't need the ARM hardware to run RISC OS.

Expensive applications - yes there are some expensive applications. These are generally purchased by dedicated RISC OS enthusiasts who know that a small market will cause higher prices. They appreciate the one to one contact that you get with that price. Just look at the level of service people like Martin Wuerthner provide.

No browser - I agree, but people don't use RISC OS in issolation much these days - they generally have another machine such as a PC or Mac. Whilst it would be great for RISC OS to have an up to date browser it's not a deal breaker.

Confusion - out in the real world there is no confusion, because casual users just aren't interested. Does any "confusion" stop people buying machines on eBay? Of course not. I should also point out that in reality there is no confusion anyway - some people who don't have access to the facts like to try and pretend that there is.

But here is another question. Given that you don't use RISC OS or know a great deal about it (by your own admission) why are you so quick to slag off those that do use it and do know about it? Especially where those people earn a living from RISC OS. To be honest I can't see why you are here at all.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 20/8/09 9:00PM
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"Some of which might be true - but all of it totally irrelevant." Err, so the true bad things aren't bad?

"Hardware - there is plenty of hardware for sale on eBay and the market dictates the prices."

So you're recommending new users should buy non-warranted hardware?

"Confusion - out in the real world there is no confusion, because casual users just aren't interested."

Interested? No. Concerned? They should be.

"I should also point out that in reality there is no confusion anyway - some people who don't have access to the facts like to try and pretend that there is."

Except that new potential customers won't have these facts for which there is no evidence.

"But here is another question. Given that you don't use RISC OS or know a great deal about it"

Cough.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:22PM
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Hi there,

Sorry I have been a bit busy with one thing and another or I would have replied to this topic a bit sooner!

Firstly of most important of all I would say that it is a incredibly generous gesture of Aarons and Dave’s parts in getting almost the whole of the RISC World online

It was a shame that it had to stop although i think the reasons why had the best inteions of the magazine and the RISC OS community at heart

Putting the magazine online Aaaron and Dave have almost effectively waived any sales money away and they have done this with the Risc Os community in mind and I am sure there will be a lot of people of all kinds of persuasions who will find the gesture very useful indeed!

As for the rest

I would consider myself a new RISC OS user, even though I returned to the OS after quite some time

Having said that did undertake quite a bit of looking around at lots of different places before deciding to get a Virtual Acorn

And I will be honest enough to say it was only the balance between my previous experience as a RISC OS user (having owned an A3010 back in the day) and what I could see now that formed my decision.

If I was a strictly speaking new user unfamiliar with RISC OS then I would agree it is hard to know that much in a consistent and up front manner. I actually do not think it’s a case of the things that users are looking for are not there I just think that they is not one place where everything is focused together in a way that could appeal to any potential user.

There still are a lot of web sites with out of date and contradictory information but the market is small and people can’t afford to update their sites that often so I understand this as well.

In fact I wrote a letter more or less to the effect that appeared in Risc World itself!

I personally think the platform has a lot of untapped potential and was personally excited to see the excellent work that ROOL and its volunteer coders are doing to get the platform onto other equipment.

I do think that really it is up to all of us as RISC OS User what we think and want from the platform, we could easily be cynical and negative but in honesty this a self fulfilling prophecy with an inevitable conclusion with the true cynic turning around say saying “see I told you so”

-- OR – and hey just give a try to see if you like it or not

You could try being positive and supportive or even – heaven forbid come with some positive practical solutions for the issues you see and why not even take it a step further see what you can do yourself about making these possible, work together with other similarly minded people to achieve what the platform future could be.

That’s another good thing that the platform is open to anyone who is willing to try

So rjek – what you say – you are obviously passionate about RISC OS – so why not put that passion to a good use, oh sure it may not work out exactly the way you think, but it wont hurt to try

Thanks

Robin Barnard

 is a RISC OS UserBernardRobin on 21/8/09 1:47PM
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"So rjek – what you say – you are obviously passionate about RISC OS – so why not put that passion to a good use, oh sure it may not work out exactly the way you think, but it wont hurt to try"

I CHORTLE. More seriously, I believe in realism than self delusion. And I've contributed a lot over the years, and continue to do so, although in a lesser sense.

People advocating blind loyalty and "let's look at the bright side" are doing two things: doing more damage by deluding themselves and others, and wasting their time trying to find the bright side.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 2:29PM
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People advocating blind loyalty and "let's look at the bright side" are doing two things: doing more damage by deluding themselves and others, and wasting their time trying to find the bright side.

Nobody is advocating blind loyalty. Everyone who uses the platform these days are more than aware of it's shortcomings. Hence the reason why most of us also have another machine.

We'd all love to be able to access BBC IPlayer, Channel 4 On Demand, super duper Flash sites, not to mention content in Real Player and Microsoft Silverlight. At the same time, we all know it's highly unlikely stuff like that is going to happen. Still we continue to use RISC OS, not out of blind loyalty, but out of choice.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 21/8/09 4:12PM
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"Still we continue to use RISC OS, not out of blind loyalty, but out of choice."

Having the choice is not the same as not being blindly loyal; unless you have another reason for making that choice.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 4:18PM
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"Having the choice is not the same as not being blindly loyal "

But being blindly loyal, would not let you have a choice.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 21/8/09 4:22PM
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Not quite: being blindly loyal simply means you'll always choose the thing your loyalty lies with :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 7:59PM
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Hi again - everyone!

Perhaps I did not quite word my last posting that clearly - well I was at work at the time - I am now its late so i may make a few mistakes now - but still....

Actually I welcome people with any kind of opinion be it positive or negative, or critical.

I want to listen to talk to people who are critical as i would like to see if there is something i can do to change what they see as being wrong or possibly explain some more about why the way things are

What I would could call a meaningful discussion. I often think that critics can actually be the most useful and helpful people in showing what is really wrong in some places, as long as thee is the meaningful discussion of course

But no there is not anything that is all sunshine and roses and happiness and to pretend there is would be insulting to everyone whatever their inclination and also it would be rather boring. As a race we do tend to thrive on conflict of one sort or another.

I do not think i was advocating blind loyalty but there you go

but there is a marked difference between constructive criticism and just being critical for its own sake

so - okay to anyone who has a criticism what would you do to change or improve what you do not like?

Then i am interested in having a discussion

otherwise i fear you just might being petty for its own sake, which while i can understand is the way things can be , part of life and some people are just like that and so on - and cathartic for the people expressing their opinions

But I would have to say sorry I am less interested in having any discussion at all with people who are critical for its owns sake and i would add you give the constructive critics a bad name

but what to do eh, thats life - so live it, like it or do not like it

bring your problems to the table or leave them at home

its up to the individual at the end of the day

enjoy

Robin Barnard

R

 is a RISC OS UserBernardRobin on 21/8/09 11:31PM
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""Some of which might be true - but all of it totally irrelevant." Err, so the true bad things aren't bad?"

They are neither good or bad - but irrelevant. If a user isn't going to purchase product X, does it matter that product X is expensive? No.

""Hardware - there is plenty of hardware for sale on eBay and the market dictates the prices." So you're recommending new users should buy non-warranted hardware?"

The discussion related to price. On eBay the price is determined by the market. If a user wants older hardware with a guarantee then both CJE and APDL offer that service.

""Confusion - out in the real world there is no confusion, because casual users just aren't interested." Interested? No. Concerned? They should be."

Of course they shouldn't. Does the fact that you think there is (or attempt to create) confusion matter to someone buying a RISC PC with RISC OS 4 on eBay? No.

Does it matter to someone buying an A9? No.

"Except that new potential customers won't have these facts for which there is no evidence." That's a fascinatng phrase - "facts for which there is no evidence" - hardly "facts" then. Opinions perhaps, but not "facts". However it's still totally irrelevant.

"Cough." - yes indeed - an embarressed cough instead of a plain answer speaks volumes.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 21/8/09 2:16PM
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So, what you're saying is that you think that a choice between hideous expense or grimey second-hand ancient kit isn't a barrier to entry. What, pray tell, is then? Given that users are dwindling, not growing.

The cough was simply because your nonsense that I quoted directly above it simply didn't warrant a reply; especially given you were ultracrepidating.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 2:25PM
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rjek, do you actually own a RISC OS machine?

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 20/8/09 4:42PM
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He doesn't

 is a RISC OS Userepistaxsis on 20/8/09 6:25PM
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Two, at the moment.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:17PM
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What OS's are they running?

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 20/8/09 9:23PM
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Well, to be a bit more honest: I have an A9, and something that looks very much like an A9. The later runs Linux, but given I use RPCemu too, I think that counts as "two RISC OS machines".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:26PM
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The question was about ownership. Do you own an A9? No. Did you pay for an A9? No. I seem to recall that A6 provided an A9 for use during the Google summer of code sessions so that non RISC OS users could test code over VNC.

Moving on, I very pleased to see you acknowledge that a virtual machine (in this case RPCEmu) counts the same as a real machine - I've made a note of this for future reference.

 is a RISC OS UserVirtualAcorn on 21/8/09 2:21PM
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"The question was about ownership. Do you own an A9? No. Did you pay for an A9? No. I seem to recall that A6 provided an A9 for use during the Google summer of code sessions so that non RISC OS users could test code over VNC."

Perhaps you'd like to get your facts straight before pontificating. Hardly any of the above is true.

"Moving on, I very pleased to see you acknowledge that a virtual machine (in this case RPCEmu) counts the same as a real machine - I've made a note of this for future reference."

Again, your lack of ability to read is astonishing. Or perhaps you just like to read more into what is said in the hope it backs up your own pitiful excuse for a position. I have neither acknowledged this nor dismissed it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 2:28PM
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Again, your lack of ability to read is astonishing. Or perhaps you just like to read more into what is said in the hope it backs up your own pitiful excuse for a position. I have neither acknowledged this nor dismissed it.

As far as I can see, neither you nor Aaron have any obvious position in this argument other than an apparent dislike of each other. Could the two of you possibly consider getting a virtual room somewhere - a cozy, snide email exchange for example - rather than littering one of the only up to date RISC OS public news platforms with your unpleasantly personal tete-a-tetes?

 is a RISC OS UserMonty on 21/8/09 10:57PM
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Have you read anything either I or Aaron have said?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 11:57PM
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Alright, you both have a lot of positions on, amongst other issues;

Whether RISCWorld was worth paying for or an inacurate 'rag-on-a-CD';

Use of Urban Dictionary to best describe each others faults;

Whether 'Netsurf' is an important typo;

The relevance of hardware expense to the state of RISC OS;

If coughing constitutes an answer;

The nature of computer ownership.

So I suppose what I said wasn't that correct, sorry. However, what I meant was that instantly turning a series of petty disputes into personal attacks wasn't a pretty spectacle.

It's just, in my opinion, plain impolite to publicly call someone a 'freetard' or insult their professional work.

 is a RISC OS UserMonty on 22/8/09 5:06PM
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"It's just, in my opinion, plain impolite to publicly call someone a 'freetard' or insult their professional work."

So, what you're saying is that movie review sites should be banned? Why is it bad to say if a news outlet has an astonishing lack of attention to detail of fact?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/8/09 5:50PM
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I would suggest that to say something is impolite is some distance from saying it should be banned.

You raise a good point though. Clearly it must be possible to criticise others' work openly. My objection was against the way these criticisms were made.

 is a RISC OS UserMonty on 22/8/09 8:30PM
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At least I was honest without using insulting words, such as ones derived from "retard".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/8/09 9:13PM
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he question was about ownership. Do you own an A9? No. Did you pay for an A9?

The spirit of the question was not about ownership. But if you want to nit-pick, the question was not related to just A9home hardware either.

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 21/8/09 4:16PM
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> Shame on you for writing such a thing.

Whoa. When did supporting RISC OS turn into a religion? Let's keep shame out of this!

(By the way, I still use and like RISC OS, though I'm happy to accept this is an entirely irrational practice. Like eating cocktail sausages, or watching England play cricket.)

 is a RISC OS Userlym on 20/8/09 4:55PM
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You mean it *isn't* a religion? :-o

No

Wait

Perhaps you're right - there's just lots of zealotry and fervour round here... ;-)

 is a RISC OS Userepistaxsis on 20/8/09 6:29PM
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Whoa. When did supporting RISC OS turn into a religion?

I thought most of us prayed every night to the computer almighty in the sky. "Please please please make someone finished off the Firefox port for RISC OS. I promise, I'll never slag off another Windows machine. Ever.."

 is a RISC OS Usersa110 on 21/8/09 4:19PM
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Wow, Both of you are very annoying. One cannot deny that both off you have done great things for RISC OS. Aaron with RO4, VA and Foundation. Rjek with NetSurf (see I spelled it correctly). But it is very clear that Rjek just want's to annoy and pester Aaron, which effectivly makes him a troll and nobody likes one of those (no matter how much you have done for the platform). To Aaron: stop taking the bait and learn see things in perspective!

Oh and thank you for making all of this available.

 is a RISC OS Userhighlandcattle on 25/8/09 1:14PM
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If all I wanted was to annoy Aaron, there are way better ways than to try to expose him to logic. And that's ignoring his tactics of insults, toy-throwing and selective reading.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/8/09 2:44PM
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