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UPP shares porting tools

By Chris Williams. Published: 28th Jan 2003, 20:53:50 | Permalink | Printable

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There's an awful lot of open source software out there, good software with the potential to be ported to everybody's favourite platform, RISC OS. Currently, Peter Naulls' Unix Porting Project is an essential source for ported software and also runs a subscription scheme that we've bestowed due coverage in the past. You may think that porting applications from one platform to another is all rather daunting but it doesn't have to be when you've got the right kit at your fingertips.

As part of the Unix Porting Project, Peter is now offering a developer subscription that would enable you to gain access to the tools Peter has developed in order to aid his own porting activities. You will need, we're told, a working copy of the GCCSDK to take advantage of these tools.

"A number of people have shown interest in a 'Porting Environment' which was discussed during development of the ideas for this project", Peter explains on his website. "This is now available in the form of various tools, along with support for its use."

For more details, you'll need to see the links below.


Unix Porting Project Developer Page "Sign up"

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Looks good, however a libraries only option would be a better idea - simply as not everyone wants the other stuff.

Hmmmm, applications for spending money will be done on an if I think you're capable basis[1]....

[1] well, it doesn't say that exactly, but that's how it reads

 is a RISC OS UserNodoid on 29/1/03 5:40PM
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...stop pretending you're speaking for everyone instead of just yourself.

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 29/1/03 5:50PM
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I don't get it. It's polite of Peter to check that one is competent enough before signing up.

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 29/1/03 5:54PM
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These tools are aimed at programmers, I quite agree that Peter ensures that the users on this scheme should have the basic knowledge required to use the tools. I'll also point out that it does mention that great enthusiasm and willingness to learn may be substitutes. Well done to Peter for bringing things forward in the developer community.

 is a RISC OS Userjonix on 29/1/03 7:20PM
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Yeah, go Peter! Now, how does a poverty-stricken sixth-former like myself go about getting 25 (aside from drug-dealing or getting off my lazy butt and getting a job)? :-)

 is a RISC OS Userhutchies on 29/1/03 8:15PM
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hutchies: go bother your parents.

 is a RISC OS Usertakkaria on 29/1/03 9:37PM
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Hutchies; how about take out a loan from your parental unit to cover the 25. Port something useful and charge a support/distribution/ask for donations fee - that way, we get software, u get software, everyone happy :o). Better still, borrow it from a loan shark with a crowbar fixation, and then you have more incentive to earn some money to return to him ASAP :oD.

 is a RISC OS Usermd0u80c9 on 29/1/03 9:56PM
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chocky : I'm not doing anything of the sort. A version which was libraries only would definately get people in who aren't after the bits available on your website.

diomus : just smells fishy. On the one hand it makes sense to do that to cut down any flack caused by twits not knowing what they're doing, but on the other you're leaving the decision up to a single person who has bemoaned the lack of development on the software side and yet when others have done something (or tried to) has had nothing but grief from their activities.

And Chocky, before you pipe up, there are more than me out here that this has happened to.

 is a RISC OS UserNodoid on 29/1/03 10:50PM
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Oh stop crying your eyes out Paul. We're not interested. What is the point of libraries when there's no porting environment to support them?

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 29/1/03 11:28PM
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Paul, this is so much short sighted specious wailing, that it's not worth replying to.

-- Chocky, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 30/1/03 8:48AM
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Of course, Chocky's policy is nothing new. For instance, you can only purchase Windows if you demonstrate that you are suitably *stupid*.

However, in a fit of luck for Microsoft, they don't have to actually get potential users to demonstrate their stupidity; the attempt to purchase it demonstrates the user's lack of mental prowess.

-- Dougal

 is a RISC OS UserDougal on 30/1/03 1:15PM
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chocky : and yet you replied... ;-p There is also nothing short sighted about it.

chris : Oh look, tools for cross compiling, needs a working GCCSDK setup ... hmm, I wonder what this is on my linux boxes... Oh yes, working GCCSDK setup, cross compiler utils and even a couple of ports I'm testing... Looks like the environment as specified on the website is there. Ho hum.

 is a RISC OS UserNodoid on 30/1/03 2:45PM
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So what's the problem?

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 30/1/03 3:00PM
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So when you (Paul) wrote 'not everyone wants the other stuff' you specifically meant that you don't think that you need the other stuff. That's a fair point, but I haven't heard anyone else asking for a discounted subscription.

Look at it this way, is 50quid pa such an onorous fee? You'll get the libraries for that price, plus a few tools that you may find come in handy once in a while for free.

 is a RISC OS Userninja on 30/1/03 6:54PM
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I say I say I say, how do you make a cross assembler? Poke your fingers in his eyes, I thankyou.

 is a RISC OS Usermonkeyson on 31/1/03 9:29AM
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chris : the problem is that not everyone will want everything, so a libs/tools only release would be a valuable addition to the product list.

 is a RISC OS UserNodoid on 2/2/03 10:19PM
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It's a bit like wanting only 4 Penguin biscuits but having to settle for 8 because that's how many come in the packet!

 is a RISC OS Userjonix on 3/2/03 9:45AM
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