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Select 3 online release

By Chris Williams. Published: 19th May 2003, 22:39:13 | Permalink | Printable

Goodies in hands of users, albeit beta

After gradually revealing the features list of RISC OS Select, developers RISCOS Ltd. have this evening released Select 3 (aka RISC OS 4.36, kernel 6.45) to their subscriber base via the Select website.

We were getting around 70KB/sec in terms of download speed from the riscos.com server however you may not want to all dive in at once. We've taken a desktop screenshot of Select 3 running on one of our RiscPCs which shows off the major new features - everything you see is configurable, in case you disagree with our personal colour scheme (see the thumbnail below, desktop theme courtesy of the Spriteman).



The release of new versions of RISC OS Select are usually in two halves. Firstly, a beta version of the OS is made available online from the Select website. Although the term 'beta' is used, the OS has gone through much pre-testing. Secondly, some time after the online distribution has started and direct feedback from users collected, the OS release is considered stable and CD copies are shipped to Select subscribers. RISCOS Ltd. state that they are still testing Select 3 for the Microdigital Omega, Mico and Alpha and the RiscStation range of machines.

If users happen to find any bugs in this initial beta release (heavens no), we recommend you report it to the Select mailing list so it can be addressed in time for the CD release. The Select 3 highlights, namely filer thumbnailing, icon cut'n'paste, recycle bin, overhauled !Paint and more, have been generally well received by users on the Select mailing list.

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You have got to try this! It's amazing!

 is a RISC OS UserSnig on 19/5/03 11:06PM
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Oooh!! It's gorgeous! 8)

 is a RISC OS Userimj on 19/5/03 11:13PM
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Done an ickle demo of the new alphasprites in combination with the Select 2 sprite translucency stuff. Amazing what you can knock up in a bit of BASIC now. Where's Jan Vibe when you need a good demo? :-) [link] and alphademo2.zip

 is a RISC OS Userimj on 19/5/03 11:18PM
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Wow. Thats pretty cool! Take a screen shot to wet the apetite (?) of non-select users!

Thanks ROLtd!

 is a RISC OS UserSnig on 19/5/03 11:44PM
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Heh. [link]

 is a RISC OS Userimj on 20/5/03 12:04AM
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OK, I'm jealous now. I WANT IT :(

 is a RISC OS Userjmb on 20/5/03 1:37AM
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I might not disagree with your colour scheme but the choice of editor is appauling ;)

 is a RISC OS Userdanielbarron on 20/5/03 9:29AM
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Refused to update !System for me because it said I had windows open :o Everything else worked fine, so I just upgraded !System with the merge tool afterwards. Seems great so fat :D I like the new paint and the groovy buttons best!

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 10:27AM
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I wish you could type in a percentage in paint to set the transparacy level. If you want 10% tranceparacy it takes agggeeesss.... to click it down. :|

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 10:41AM
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I just found the image viewer. Very nice :D

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 10:46AM
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/me so want to run it on my Iyonix*

*the Iyonix I will have (eventually).

 is a RISC OS Userfylfot on 20/5/03 11:58AM
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I have to try it tonight, but I like what I read and see. However, the background in the screenshot is not in Spriteman's file. Where do I find that one?

 is a RISC OS UserJeroen on 20/5/03 12:03PM
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Andrew Duffell> It doesn't take "agggeeesss" ... hold down the SHIFT key! That's what standardised controls are for - you SHIFT-click should always be a fast version of a simple click on the arrows. and Adjust-click goes in the opposite direction. Know thy OS!

Ian.

 is a RISC OS Userimj on 20/5/03 12:15PM
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I thought I understood Select version numbers till this one came out, anyone have another idea how they line up. My old idea was select XiY == RISC OS 4.(X+1)Y eg

Select 1i9 = 4.29 Select 2i3 = 4.33

but 3i1 as 4.36 should be 4.41

I dunno, maybe I should get out more :)

 is a RISC OS Userflibble on 20/5/03 12:17PM
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There's no correlation between OS version numbers and Select release numbers. Even less relation with Kernel versions. Yes, you do need to get out more. ;-)

 is a RISC OS Userimj on 20/5/03 12:20PM
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Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice Has anybody found a really nice

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/5/03 12:21PM
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Arg, WebsterXL strikes again. Ok - again: Has anybody found a nice button configuration they want to share ?

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/5/03 12:25PM
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imj: Thanks :) I knew about adjust to go backwards, but not about shift click :)

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 12:30PM
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I think there's a whole article on customising Select just itching to be written..

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 20/5/03 12:31PM
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Grek1: Small rounded edges on everything Enable special colour schemes NOT as tint

Action button: 0% 71% 86.7% Default Button: 0% 32.9% 100% Groups: 0% 0% 26.2% Action button text/rim: 33.3% 33.3% 33.3% Default button text/rim: 0% 0% 0%

Everything on misc options is ticked :D

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 12:34PM
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My colours above are in the order RGB incase you don't know :P

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 12:35PM
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I had the window open problem, so I ran the upgrade from an escape boot.

After upgrade, I had to unplug cdfssoftatapi and dmamanager to get it running (Kinetic/storm).

Nice (eventually) -- Jess

 is a RISC OS Userjess on 20/5/03 12:45PM
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Andrew: Very nice! Especially with the yellowish marble texture i use. But I find the default action button is a bit too dark.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/5/03 12:56PM
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I'm using it with Richard Goodwins MacOS Clear theme which it fits in with well :D

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 20/5/03 1:02PM
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It seems all button-related setting are saved in the file 'Iconsetup' in predesk. Should make distributing button-themes a bit easier :-)

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/5/03 1:03PM
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I like bold desktops at the moment, hence using Dave's Clear theme. The colourpicker perc rgb values for me: Action=45 81 100 Default=61 91 56 Groups=28 60 60

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 20/5/03 1:03PM
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So its the same background as in the picture above ? That does look very nice and gets rid of that boring grey.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/5/03 1:06PM
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If you are patient just replace your current !Boot with the one inside the installer then just copy what is needed back into the !Boot.

I think I like the buttons although they are a tad "slow" on a VF.

The image viewer doesn't seem to enjoy large PNGs much...

How does one get rid of the pink Select banner? -- James Carey

 is a RISC OS Userjmcarey on 20/5/03 1:08PM
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If you are patient just replace your current !Boot with the one inside the installer then just copy what is needed back into the !Boot.

I think I like the buttons although they are a tad "slow" on a VF.

The image viewer doesn't seem to enjoy large PNGs much...

How does one get rid of the pink Select banner? -- James Carey

 is a RISC OS Userjmcarey on 20/5/03 1:16PM
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diomos: Mmhh, yes thats even better. The text is more readable.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/5/03 1:19PM
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Whoops, I accidentally clicked on the "Just For You - Processing Request" in Oregano's History and it resubmitted my comment, d'uh!

 is a RISC OS Userjmcarey on 20/05/03 1:21PM
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jmcarey: In the Filer.Thumbnailing configuration window you can set the 'largest image' maybe that also works for the image viewer (?).

What banner do you mean ? I have not seen the startup banner as I use the Germs (used to be part of BlackHole) to display a picture during startup. I think in this select release you just have to point a system variable to a picture of your choice to display it instead of the startup banner.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/05/03 1:28PM
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It is 'DesktopBanner$File'.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/05/03 1:32PM
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A screenshot section on Drobe would be nice so that people's interesting desktops and applications in action could be uploaded for all to see.

 is a RISC OS Userarenaman on 20/05/03 1:41PM
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Set DesktopBanner$File <path to sprite>

Shove it in PreDesk

 is a RISC OS UserAndrew Duffell on 20/05/03 1:47PM
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The backdrop I use is at:

[link]

Chris.

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 20/05/03 1:50PM
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Oh, and there's some desktop banners at:

[link]

Chris.

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 20/05/03 1:50PM
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They really have added quite a lot to Paint. Even the sprite selector has been improved - no need for NoPaint anymore.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/05/03 2:00PM
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HELP!

I ran the installer, and it TOO crashed out with a "too many windows" open error (even though I had chosen auto-quit everything).

How do I do a sysmerge when I can't find the system to merge?!?!

 is a RISC OS Userharmsy on 20/05/03 2:18PM
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well, I just copied the content !InsSelect.Resources.rm to !Boot.Resources.!System.Modules and restarted. I did not bother with the installer just used !Configure to install the bootimage and thats it. This is probably not the nice and recomende way to do it, but it works.

Hope this helps.

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/05/03 2:26PM
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Andrew: I've emailed you :D

 is a RISC OS UserAndrew Duffell on 20/05/03 2:49PM
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Thanks Andrew D - I'm up and running!

I've just tried !Paint - at last, !NoPaint is redundant!!!

That's the best bit so far for me - I spend lots of time playing with animations... :)

 is a RISC OS Userharmsy on 20/05/03 2:53PM
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What was/is !NoPaint?

 is a RISC OS UserAndrew Duffell on 20/05/03 2:57PM
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Allows you to re-order multiple sprites within a single spritefile. By Andre Timmermans. Great - but not needed any more, thanks to !Paint 2.51. :-)

 is a RISC OS Userharmsy on 20/05/03 3:08PM
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*wishes he has known about it before :o*

 is a RISC OS UserAndrew Duffell on 20/05/03 3:16PM
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Can somebody advise me how to set my own startup banner? And where can I find the default on in the boot structure?

thanks!

 is a RISC OS Usermaikl on 20/05/03 4:59PM
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Put the following into an obey file and move the obeyfile into the <Choices$Dir>.Boot.Predesk directory.

*Set DesktopBanner$File <Path to Sprite>

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/05/03 5:43PM
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How do you set the buttons to the blue/green in the Drobe screenshot?

Thanks

Sebastian

 is a RISC OS Usersebgate20 on 20/05/03 9:12PM
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At Wakefield, they had Selec 3 with a really cool Aqua theme - is that an option in Select 3 or a set of sprites for general usage?

MArk

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 20/05/03 9:14PM
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Sebastian: Some values are mentioned in the comments attached to the article. Those mentioned by diomos are quite close.

Mark: I have not seen it, but it might just be the 'Clear'-theme from [link]

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 20/05/03 9:35PM
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Thats the theme! Thank you.

MArk

 is a RISC OS Usermarkee174 on 20/05/03 9:45PM
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That theme looks really good with the new curved buttons :D

 is a RISC OS UserAndrew Duffell on 20/05/03 9:55PM
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Hmm. Another excuse to change my desktop theme! :D Someone set up a screenshot data base so we can all show off our various desktops. :)

 is a RISC OS UserSnig on 20/05/03 10:26PM
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The Aqua like theme was by Apple^H^H^H^H^HRichard Goodwin - available from [link] I think Paul Middleton uses it himself.

Don't know if it comes with Select tho.

 is a RISC OS Usermonkeyson on 21/05/03 09:31AM
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The wallpapers section on drobe allows you to submit screenshots to the 'backdrop' category! I'm also working on letting you submit things like archives containing themed iconsets (and so forth) to it.

 is a RISC OS Userg0tai on 21/05/03 2:01PM
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The 'bin' image looks particularly nicely designed, blending in with the other 'drive' images.

Its also good to see its been renamed from 'recyclone'!

 is a RISC OS Useranon/81.86.207.139 on 21/05/03 4:53PM
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sebastian: Run !Configure, then open the Windows plugin, then the Icons plugin and fiddle with the settings in there.

Chris.

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 21/05/03 5:45PM
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