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By Ian Chamberlain. Published: 26th Jun 2003, 13:35:10 | Permalink | Printable

Softease, Artworks, Lua and others

Over the past week Drobe has been made aware of various software developments that we shall summerise in this software round-up.

Softease, who continue to show support for the RISC OS market, have released an update to Textease, their excellent word processing and desktop publishing package. We have been told that this update now allows JPEGs to render correctly and for 32bit sound to operate under RISC OS 5. This is available for existing users on the downloads section of their website.

Softease have also published support guides for all of their applications which can be found in the guides section of the same site.

Readers will not be surprised to hear that the work on Artworks 2 continues. Version 2.05 has now been released to users by MW Software. Martin Wuerthner said that "apart from various bug-fixes there is a new Skew tool, more Dutch and German messages and interactive help for the permanent Info Bar controls and the tools". Unlike previous releases, where users were emailed a copy of the latest update, users will now need to log into the Artworks 2 support area of MW Software's website for their latest fix.

Dave Appleby has announced a new version of GCCide, a 'front end' project manager for GCC (GNU Compler Collection). It has been updated to support the 32bit RISC OS version of GCC. Some users have commented that there are some problems with this release, although the author has been informed and we hope that these will be resolved quickly.

The same author has also issued a new version of CCres which converts Toolbox Resource and Wimp Template files to and from a text format. Both of these are available at his website.

Next, news of an update to RiscLua, the RISC OS interpeter for the powerful, yet light-weight programing language, Lua 5.0. It is now available as a relocatable module that allows, as the author Gavin Wraith writes, for "identical [functionality] to what went before, but it is faster, as there is no delay while the interpreter loads, and more economic on memory since the same module code can run separate multitasking instantiations of the interpreter". You can read more about this language, and download a copy of version 2.31, at his website.

Finally, Jan-Jaap van der Geer's bayesian filter armed anti-spam app SpamStamp now copes a lot better with MIME, quoted-printable, base64, HTML and binaries. Steve Drain has released a beta version of Basalt, which extends existing BASIC keywords and implements new keywords.


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Yay! Lua. :)

 is a RISC OS Usernunfetishist on 26/6/03 4:50PM
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Didn't take you long to notice that one, did it? :)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 26/6/03 5:22PM
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After recieving another email insisting that I need certain parts on my anatamy extended in a herbal non-surgical way I decided to install SpamStamp this evening. Lovely jubbly! :D

 is a RISC OS UserSnig on 26/6/03 9:42PM
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finally pictures in the article messages :) (woo)

 is a RISC OS Usernex on 26/6/03 11:21PM
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More opportunity to see your ugly mug nex. :D

psst. Rumour has it NetSmurf now has url-redirection and https support. drobe.co.uk missing out on random minor news to post in roundups? :)

 is a RISC OS UserSnig on 26/6/03 11:49PM
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So people complain when there's not enough news. People complain when there's too much and we overlook a bit. Drop us an email if you've got a rumour/news tip. Sheesh ;)

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 26/6/03 11:59PM
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Eww, pictures in the article messages, almost as bad as those stupid graphical smilies.

"Did you mean compiler?"

Which is the best of these spam killing programs? The rare opportunity to do a comparison review perhaps.

 is a RISC OS Usermavhc on 27/6/03 7:38AM
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Guess you can't satify some people ... I dunno Chris these days young'ns just don't understand the strains of running the best news service RISC OS has to offer :)

 is a RISC OS Useriamnotamused on 27/6/03 9:18AM
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I agree with mavhc on this one. The time is ripe for someone to do a comparitive review of the available spam fighting applications and services. -- Victor Shears, Maidstone

 is a RISC OS Uservshears on 27/6/03 9:27AM
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I use spamassassin for filtering my email, so someone with the necessary RISC OS internet software setup is more than welcome to do a comparasion.

Just drop us an email.

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 27/6/03 10:22AM
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Just like to point out that every registered drobe user has a webmail service (the webmail link on the sidebar once you've logged in!) that has spamassasin operating on it.


 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 27/6/03 11:07AM
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Bloody hell. 'Web mail', eh? (sorry, been watching too many Simpsons episodes). I have to agree with mavhc a bit (if I dare) - most discussion pages do tend to end up looking like a smiley explosion.

 is a RISC OS Useriamnotamused on 27/6/03 2:35PM
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Surely it wouldn't be too hard to add "Show avatars" and "Show graphical smilies" options in your profile?

I'd keep them both switched on, because I'm a tarty bitch :)

 is a RISC OS Usermoss on 27/6/03 2:56PM
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Ah, I see that's already been suggested in the forums :)

In that case; must learn lua. Must learn lua.

 is a RISC OS Usermoss on 27/6/03 2:59PM
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I think the graphical smilies are good, makes it quite clear when you're being sarky or whatever, and makes sure nobody is going to bite your head off.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 27/6/03 3:00PM
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[link] -- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 27/6/03 3:01PM
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Typical, in the 2 minutes it took me to reply, you've already posted that you found it in the forum. -- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 27/6/03 3:02PM
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The problem I have with the graphical smilies is that they're *not* as clear as the textual ones. Certianly not considering the font I use, and such. Plus, their height will almost certianly be different from the height of the font the text itself is rendered in, meaning you get ugly gaps all over the place.

 is a RISC OS Usernunfetishist on 27/6/03 5:29PM
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Webmail? Via plain HTTP? Erks ... isn't 1.3.23 a bit old for an Apache and 4.1.0 a bugged PHP? g0tai, if you've got that much time to build a webmail service, you can as well overhaul the software base of your services ... And not only the basis! Why does the profile page my own email address from my eyes? Does that make sense? Your new-user-welcome-mail (which I got after recreating my obviously deleted account) states that I can change my password -- but where? It would be nice if this feature reappeared, because now I have to use my own webmail service to fetch that nasty password because I can't remember it. So go, Ian, and make/keep drobe the best service around -- and give me an interface to change my password! And finally: nice to see you writing here, Ian C., despite the creative grammar. --

 is a RISC OS Usermaus on 27/6/03 9:36PM
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Please note that patching versions of software does not neccacarily(spelt) change the version number of things like PHP and Apache.

As to the password changing thing, it looks like the form has been commented out by chris. I'll put that back soon.

-- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 27/6/03 10:51PM
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There, done. -- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 27/6/03 11:12PM
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Oh, and I'd just like to point out that millions of people still collect and send email using POP and SMTP, *without* using things like MD5, APOP, or other secure methods for logging in. I don't see the point of providing webmail over https for this reason.

-- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 27/6/03 11:15PM
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Oooh, piccies on messages ... they burn my eyes.

 is a RISC OS Userflibble on 28/6/03 12:46AM
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g0tai: Pepperfish provide POP and IMAP over SSL, and try to convice our customers to use it (and use HTTPS for the webmail...)

But that's just 'cause we're great. :)

 is a RISC OS Usernunfetishist on 28/6/03 1:24AM
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How many RISC OS news/mail readers can grab stuff over SSL? :)

-- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 28/6/03 7:28AM
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I seem to recall we have a couple. Shouldn't be tricky to get POPStar to do it, if it doesn't already. And I certianly hope Messenger Pro does it, considering the amount they charge for it.

 is a RISC OS Usernunfetishist on 28/6/03 11:02AM
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Thanks for the password form, g0tai. Much appreciated. On the subject of email transport, one can't stress enough that the only sensible safe way to deliver a message is encrypting the message itself. Despite this I offer encryption of email transport (with POP and SMTP, with or without SSL) on my server while keeping compatibility with old client software. As for the 'millions' argument: Millions of flies go for s***, so s*** must be good food, sure? And finally patches: if new versions are available, patches for old software only make sense if you want to keep compatibility with some API or similar reasons. I usually upgrade instead of patch.

 is a RISC OS Usermaus on 28/6/03 8:27PM
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The only SSL enabled "RISC OS" client I'm aware of is mutt, and that needs a little bit of work to talk RISC OS stuff properly.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 28/6/03 8:32PM
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maus> My philosopohy for software written in spare time/free is: if it works, don't fix it.

If in the future I see the need to upgrade PHP or apache, then it will get done, and tested on a standalone system here before going live. At the moment PHP & Apache works, and thats all that matters. -- Ian Hawkins (g0tai)

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 29/6/03 9:01AM
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Shouldn't that philosophy apply to commercial software too?

 is a RISC OS Userjonix on 29/6/03 1:36PM
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