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R-Comp launches entry level database app

By Ian Chamberlain. Published: 13th Aug 2003, 22:39:15 | Permalink | Printable

DataPower Home squeezes in between DP 1 and 2

Earlier this year we reported that R-Comp had taken over development of DataPower, a database program for RISC OS users. Since then we have seen the development of a 32bit version of DataPower 2. And now R-Comp has announced another new release, DataPower Home.

The R-Comp announcement states that DP Home "brings friendly databasing to RISC OS users; with a simple "drag-and-drop" approach and a DTP-like WYSIWYG view".

DP Home is based on Iota Software's DataPower 1, but R-Comp say it's been brought up-to-date and features components from DP 2, 32bit compatability, as well as tackling some well-known problems. New updated documentation has also been produced with tutorials designed specifically for this new version.

Prospective users deciding between DP Home and DP 2 will have to consider the main difference between the two: the former is a flat-file database management program and the latter employs relational database management. Whereas a flat-file database stores, organizes, and retrives information from one file at a time, a relational database can share information between files. For example, if you had a database of pupils' names and addresses, you might have a second database that contains their medical details. Rather than having to duplicate data (i.e. having a second copy of the same set of data) their names could be drawn from the first database. For large projects this can save huge amounts of time and hard disc space.

R-Comp explains, "the idea behind DataPower Home is to offer users a well-rounded product for less than 50UKP, without some of the more sophisticated, and perhaps less often used, facilities present in DataPower 2".

R-Comp has designed DP Home to be the natural upgrade for existing DataPower 1 users, as well as for people who use older databases such as Recordz, MasterFile and MultiStore. This fact is mirrored in their attractive pricing structure that gives such users considerable discounts. At an affordable price, an impressive array of features and a natural upgrade path to DP 2 when more functionality is required; DP Home is also an appealing option for new users wishing to enter the world of organised data.

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Just what I have been looking for. A reasonable cost database to create some apps with for you folks. :-)

Just bought it from R-comp. My first bit of RISC OS software since I ditched the RiscPC desktop.

cheers bob

 is a RISC OS Usernijinsky on 14/8/03 9:49AM
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I would need Data Power 2 though because I need to be able to show i can yse a relational database for my ICT coursework!

This way it means i can do more work on RISC OS and less on Microsoft Windows!

 is a RISC OS UserTimothy609 on 14/8/03 10:11AM
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the riscos version of datapower2 is only 99pounds

cheers bob

 is a RISC OS Usernijinsky on 14/8/03 10:30AM
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Only 99pounds? That IS a lot of money, so buying it just so you can do your coursework on RISC OS (and the possibly never use it again) is a bit OTT.

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 14/8/03 11:45AM
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Data Power 2 is a very nice DB I have used it since it came out (upgrading from Data Power 1). However I must admit I have not yet got arround to upgrading to the latest R-Comp relised version -- Victor Shears, Maidstone

 is a RISC OS Uservshears on 14/8/03 11:49AM
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> Only 99pounds? That IS a lot of money, so buying it just so you can do your coursework on RISC OS (and the possibly never use it again) is a bit OTT.

As opposed to spending what as an alternative? -- Jess

 is a RISC OS Userjess on 14/8/03 1:33PM
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To be honest, I think that there would have to be alot more compatibility with other databases (LOTUS & Access), as in load the newest file types (Access XP) and save with no other messing around (double Click).

This alone would interest more uses to the high price of 99.

It is this direct incompatibility issue that has forced me to use Access at work!

Infact how about R-Comp do a suggestion board on all of their products?

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 14/8/03 1:34PM
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It's not easy to support MS file formats. Staroffice does it through reverse engineering although Access files are beyond even that. It's also very hard to retro-fit file compatability to an existing product. It needs a certain amount of 'creativity' where there are differences in functionality. -- Rob

 is a RISC OS Userrob on 14/8/03 2:15PM
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WEll I actually have sbase developer 2 but this is RISC OS only.

The reason why i bought the datapower was for cross platform compatability.

I actually use a PC most of the time and just wanted to make some apps that were cross platform to RISC OS.

I could have used access but it is a pigs ear. I also have MS SQL server as the main database. Indeed this comes free with metamorph (used for a file list browser; how is that for overkill) :-) I like the look of datapower and I thnk it is a decent database RAD.

cheers bob

 is a RISC OS Usernijinsky on 14/8/03 2:24PM
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> It needs a certain amount of 'creativity' where there are differences in functionality.

And of course there are *huge* differences in functionality between Access and a more straightforward relational database.

Even without that, 99 quid for a desktop relational database with a modern workable UI sounds like a good deal to me.

 is a RISC OS Userninja on 14/8/03 3:09PM
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ninja: you are totally correct. Access is not a good DBMS. I asked Iota a while ago about ODBC (PC side) but this was not possible. Mind you you could build an ODBC driver with something like Dr.Deebe but this is 2K.

Sinec buying the app I have tried the readder and it can import Tab delimited or CSV so I should eb able to create my app quickly.

to get an idea of what I am writing for RISC OS see.

www.armbase.com/screenshots.html

This shows what I did on my jornada720 and would be a piece of cake on datapower.

cheers bob

 is a RISC OS Usernijinsky on 14/8/03 3:16PM
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I don't know about Access being a bad RDBMS (I've never really thrashed it hard enough to find out, to be honest), but I do know that the surrounding cludge of forms, macros and (shudder) VBA is not something I'd bother spending money on.

The <a href="[link]">ODBC software</a> that's out there already looks like it could be fun, since it gives us access to some serious fault-tolerant RDBMSes, given an investment of hardware. That last point makes this something of a niche interest, of course.

 is a RISC OS Userninja on 14/8/03 4:31PM
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Ok ODBC would be a great idea to support in DAta Power, but what I was meaning, is that almost all offices use some form of MS file types (yes even on UNIX) so supporting it would bring RISC OS that hughe leap further into the world of the Office, which is great due to the stability and (relitive) security options available on RISC OS

I.E. a much bigger/wider customer base!

This is what would bring in the money

"100% MS Compatibility, with 300% Stability"

dont ya think?

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 15/8/03 12:57PM
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Whilst MS compatibility is always important, I am not so convinced that for home users it is as important as it would be in (say) a word processor. After all, how often do you received MS databases via email, or download them from web sites? It is also hard to imagine an office worker bringing home the company database on a floppy disc!

However, it becomes much more relavent when looking at client server models, and higher end products like DP2 and beyond. Right now I'm not sure what is going to be practical, but we'd certainly like the professional end of the DP family to grow that way.

 is a RISC OS Userarawnsley on 15/8/03 1:11PM
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As ViewPoint and Junior ViewPoint ([link]) both read and modify DataPower files, cross-platform compatability is already there, no? R-Comp just need to keep in touch with Logotron, who are all nice guys...

 is a RISC OS Usermikeg on 15/8/03 6:20PM
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mikeg: Yes this is what I meant. However it was sbase that was riscos only, not datapower. This was why I bought it. i could have bought the pc version but it is better in riscos land. If I didn't have virtual acorn I wouldn't have bought either. Anothre one up for VA5000.

Now if I could only buy Virtual RiscPC as a stand alone......

cheers bob

 is a RISC OS Usernijinsky on 17/8/03 1:45PM
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You may say that it is not important for home users, but by cutting them off to the MS world would, I fear, be a huge loss to those whome wish to use their Acorn for work. (or School?)

Even in the office, as I have been requested to install network cards into A310's - RiscPCs and configure them to access PC areas to dump Data for Access, and Excel)

 is a RISC OS Userem2ac on 18/8/03 1:54PM
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DataPower 2 and DataPower Home are both fantastic products; good luck RComp in their future development. I'd have to agree with Andrew as far as the relevance of Access compatability is concerned to the average Acorn user at home. Unfortunately, it's likely that if you need Access you've got a PC for it; I'd love a system similar to Access for the Mac which would then let me access my PC databases on a much friendlier operating system.

Still, maybe its time for a database head to head for the RISC OS platform? Hmmmm....

David

 is a RISC OS Userskeeter on 21/8/03 6:16PM
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