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Select 3i2 available to subscribers

By Chris Williams. Published: 6th Sep 2003, 00:03:24 | Permalink | Printable

RISCOS Ltd. rolls on RISC OS 4.37

Version 3i2 of RISC OS Select has been published online this evening by developers RISCOS Ltd., for Select subscribers. The install includes RISC OS 4.37 and this week's Toolbox release. Select 3i2 is described as the "final release version of Select 3" and is presumably the stabilised online release that will precede the eventual CD distribution.

S3i2 installing
Select 3i2 installing itself, takes less than 10 minutes to complete
S3i2 version box
It's RISC OS 4.37. It's version dated in August although the ROM says it was built on the 1st September.

Select 3 motifThe full feature list of Select 3 was unveiled during May this year when Select 3i1 was first released. Since this release, Select users have offered bug reports and feedback on the Select mailing list to help the Select developers stabilise Select 3i2. We are expecting Select 3i2 to be somewhat of a 'feature freeze' - this is where no major new features are added to the OS as developers concentrate on correcting any bugs and other critical work. We've also witnessed work on the Toolbox modules too, which are pretty crucial components for both the operating system and third party applications.

RISCOS Ltd. say Select 3i2 has gone through "in-depth" testing for RiscPCs, A7000s, Micos, Alpha portables, RiscStations and VirtualRiscPC, although testing is still underway for the Omega. The Select 3i2 webpage also adds that "it is intended that the CD will include some work in progress versions of Select components that are suitable for Select".

The CD release is due in 2-3 weeks, according to RISCOS Ltd. Also, new to this release, the Drawfile module now supports path clipping, !Paint allows full anti-aliased text painting, the AppleTalk client has been updated and various components have been updated "to avoid Castle's undocumented use of Wimp_Extend".

Select vs. RISC OS 5
You may be aware that Castle have a feature comparasion chart of RISC OS 5 vs. Select 3. Well, now RISCOS Ltd. have their own Select 3i2 vs. RISC OS 5 feature chart. Feel free to compare and contrast each table while we're reminded of the Microsoft sponsored Windows vs. Linux study.


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Probably they should update the copyright message (it IMHO should read (c). Castle Technology in place of Pace as the IP for RISC OS now belongs to Castle).

Maybe in the rush to get it out that was missed....

-- Annraoi McShane,

 is a RISC OS UserAMS on 6/9/03 11:47AM
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I was told the copyright to RISC OS 4 still belongs to Pace. I'm afraid copyright laws override your opinion :)

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 6/9/03 1:32PM
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How strange that Pace still hold copyright for RISC OS 4.

Anyway, could anyone spare a few quid for my 'Select Fund'? I'm just a poor student but I REALLY want Select and promise to do some nice themes for it when I get it.

Paypal details available on request. -- Spriteman.

 is a RISC OS UserSpriteman on 6/9/03 1:40PM
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lol... What about my Iyonix fund ;)

All this copyright stuff with Acorn/RISC OS is dodgy. Castle seem to own everything, but people like HH and Pace retain the copyright :o

 is a RISC OS UserAndrewDuffell on 6/9/03 2:46PM
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Outline fonts in Paint - nice!

 is a RISC OS UserGrek1 on 6/9/03 3:00PM
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Funny Chris, the Castle FAQ (pointed to by drobe) states that "There are no changes to the current position; they [RISC OS Ltd] can continue to ship their RISC OS 4 desktop computers; the only difference is that Castle now holds the head license instead of Pace."

Surely that means that Castle are stating that they assume the role Pace originally had, which consequently should mean that the Intellectual Property rights to RISC OS become Castle's (and so the copyright would be theirs also). I don't see how one company can claim copyright and the other hold the intellectual property (but hey nothing surprises me these days).

Besides why would Pace give the intellectual property rights of RO5 (the more valuable property) alone to Castle, yet retain RO4 for themselves ?????

This also raises questions like who do RISC Ltd pay royalties to Pace or Castle ?

-- Annraoi McShane,

 is a RISC OS UserAMS on 6/9/03 3:44PM
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RISC OS Ltd Licenced RISC OS 4 from Pace, not Castle. And as plainly stated in the press announcement (and has been discussed before) *existing* licencees are not 'affected'. Therefore as far as RISC OS Ltd is concerned, RISC OS 4 still belongs to Pace.

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 6/9/03 9:37PM
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g0tai; existing licencees migh not be affected, but the owner of the thing of which ROL are licensors has changed. I think it's a cockup. This answers most of this sort of conspiracy theories of this type.

 is a RISC OS Usermikeg on 7/9/03 9:28AM
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It doesnt matter who the owner *now* is, RISC OS Ltd licenced RO4 from Pace, Pace still own *that* version of RISC OS 4 as far as the licence ROL have is concerned. End of story.

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 7/9/03 10:03AM
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You lot really think ROL are so stupid as to get the copyright attribution wrong on their products? Anyway, if that's all you can even find to moan about with S3i2 then it really must be pretty damn excellent! :-)

 is a RISC OS Userimj on 7/9/03 11:50AM
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Nearest paralell would be StrongARM, which was originally copyrighted Digital Equipment Corporation and then what happened - it became Copyright Intel - that being the case the same would apply to RISC OS surely.

imj> No one here is complaining about 3i2 it's a great product and most welcome. ROL have done a tour de force with it by the look of things.

My original point in raising the query was one simply of seeking clarification, not a critism of ROL in anyway I might add.

-- Annraoi McShane,

 is a RISC OS UserAMS on 7/9/03 3:18PM
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I'm pleased to see the bugfixes gone into SharedSound now, I'll soon be able to release the newxt version of stream. This will support streaming Ogg Vorbis, as well as the usual mp3. Unfortunately it gives me even more headaches hacking round shoutcast brokenness.

 is a RISC OS Userjohn on 7/9/03 3:56PM
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On a positive note, my upgrade from 3i1 to 3i2 went without a hitch. Cheers!

 is a RISC OS UserThe Doctor on 7/9/03 6:12PM
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Oh dear, my subscription has just expired so I can't fetch the update! How quickly a year's subscription passes. -- Andrew Harmsworth, Cambridge. www.gcse.com owner and author

 is a RISC OS Userharmsy on 7/9/03 6:32PM
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I thought that the latest version of Select was still available to those whose subscription expired less than three months ago.

 is a RISC OS Userlibrarian16 on 7/9/03 7:21PM
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I noticed this in Select features : " Unicode font system (RO 5 : Y, Select : N) For alphabets with > 256 characters/glyphs (we mostly speak English) " ie UTF useless Well... I don't agree ! It's about time to broaden RISC OS market

 is a RISC OS Usera310 on 7/9/03 10:29PM
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I have to agree that some of ROL's table is.. disturbing. But then Castle's has a few quirks. It's just interesting to compare the two.

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 7/9/03 11:02PM
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After trying to upgrade to 3i1 I had to revert to 1i9. This time the upgrade went very smoothly, no problems at all! Well done team.

 is a RISC OS Userpipalya on 8/9/03 1:51AM
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How do you get the white furniture seen in the photos above?

 is a RISC OS Userpipalya on 8/9/03 2:33AM
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They're not part of Select. You can download them from Spriteman's site: [link]

-- Michael Drake (tlsa) www.smoothartist.com

 is a RISC OS Usertlsa on 8/9/03 10:02AM
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Harmsy, it might be worth trying again today - I couldn't log in yesterday although I've get over six months to run on my subscription but an email to RISCOS Ltd seems to have sorted it out.

 is a RISC OS UserOverett2 on 8/9/03 1:17PM
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Interesting - tried it again just now, and it worked fine! -- Andrew Harmsworth, Cambridge. www.gcse.com owner and author

 is a RISC OS Userharmsy on 8/9/03 4:13PM
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