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RISC OS P2P client now with upload support

By Chris Williams. Published: 19th Sep 2003, 17:37:38 | Permalink | Printable

Share and share alike on Gnutellanet

Cocognut, the RISC OS Gnutellanet client developed by Marc "AudioGalaxy" Warne, has reached version 1.10 this week. Cocognut was launched in April this year and brought true P2P (short for 'peer to peer') filesharing to RISC OS. P2P networking allows a large number of users to form a network of computers across the internet in order to share files over that network.

"The Gnutella network is based on the peer-to-peer organisation. In a nutshell, this means that there are no central machines on the network and anyone who joins the network becomes part of it", Marc explains in his announcement. "No-one owns the Gnutella network, which means that it cannot be shut down by hackers or government organisations, unlike networks such as the original Audiogalaxy system, where clients such as the Satellite client for RISC OS are no longer usable".

Cocognut upload screenshotIn this latest release, Cocognut now supports uploading so RISC OS users can share files online and properly contribute to the Gnutellanet network. The upload support is quite important because it means RISC OS users on Gnutellanet can send files to other users and participate fairly rather than just downloading files from everyone else, which is commonly known as 'leeching'. Other new features include the preserving of searches and downloads across sessions and various stability updates and bug fixes.

Peer to peer filesharing is quite a hot subject at the moment with the RIAA trying its best to sue Kazaa users in America for illegally trading copyrighted music. The British equivalent of the RIAA, the British Phonographic Industry, apparantly doesn't have legal action against UK file-sharers on its to-do list.

Not that we'd accuse anyone of inappropriately downloading copyrighted work, there's lots of copyleft content on P2P networks, or so the myth goes.


Cocognut website "Downloading their lives away" (it's NTK day, fun is permitted. Laugh.)

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I still find it amusing that a piece of software whose *main purpose* measured by *how people use it* is to download copyrighted works without paying, is itself commercial software.

So then, can you compile one of the command line clients, compile it, and then download Cocognut? :)

 is a RISC OS Usernunfetishist on 19/9/03 7:25PM
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Mutella is open source, portable, command line based but written in C++ so it burnt my eyes and fingers and eyebrows - I didn't get far trying to port it.

Chris, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Userdiomus on 19/9/03 7:42PM
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Does it come with a footnote that you may at some point in the future be sued by major Music and software companies? ;-)

 is a RISC OS Userquatermass on 19/9/03 7:45PM
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there are command-line style clients written in Perl, and there is a Perl interpreter for RISC OS.

 is a RISC OS Userpiemmm on 19/9/03 8:08PM
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Of course. I feel that many people prefer GUIs to click on, rather than command line mumbo jumbo so a lot of people will just cough up :)

Just as long as they don't "update" the protocol or something. I expect it's not a w3 standard or anything. -- [link]

 is a RISC OS Userjohn on 19/9/03 11:19PM
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Don't some folks still use the networks in the way they were (I hope) intending - to give people the chance to try before they buy - I've bought dozens of CDs based on samples through P2P - what does the record industry have to fear. It's a cracking system and as far as I'm concerned the record industry has made a lot more money through it than it's lost. -- Ryan Hitch, Cottingham

 is a RISC OS Userdrjones69 on 20/9/03 2:47AM
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Yeah, I still use it to get stuff to see if I want to buy the albums. I also use it to get stuff that you can't get anymore, or stuff I've got on Vinyl.

It's turned a lot of vague interest into 'I want to go and get that' and I've found loads of new stuff that I'd never have considered buying before through P2P stuff....

-- Kate E

 is a RISC OS Userkatee on 20/9/03 10:30AM
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The RIAA and the BPI have really missed the point about file sharing. It is a way of sreading the word about music and encouraging people to buy proper copies of what they find. In my opinion, MP3 files playing of a hard drive are rubbish compared to listening to a professionally produced CD. Likewise burning music CDs that you have commiled yourself is too much like hard work.

However, the great advantage of systems like Gnutella, which is at the heart of !CocoGnut is finding obscure tracks that are simply not available anymore. For instance, it took me ten years to finallt track down and buy a copy of "Die Young" by Black Sabbath on vinyl. However, when I went looking for an MP3 of it, it was a doddle, I found it in a matter of minutes.

Although the software appears to be hamstrung by the fact that it requires Justin Fletcher's EasySocket software, which is not 32bit compatable, so will not work on Iyonix PCs.

-- Keep Flying

 is a RISC OS UserJWCR on 20/9/03 1:53PM
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john: they can't go "updating the standard", because it's open. Plus, if someone makes their client talk a different dialect of the protocol, there's a chance it simply won't work with others, so sudden changes in protocol would be unlikely.

 is a RISC OS Usertakkaria on 24/9/03 7:17PM
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