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arenaman: I don't believe they've stolen the design, but copied it. The mere act of "taking intellectual property" doesn't make sense to me. The main definition of take at [link] seems to primarily be "To get into one's possession by force, skill, or artifice" which I don't think really is the case here.

I have never said that copying copyrighted content without permission is correct. My theory doesn't state that somebody could copy the latest ARM core design and use it. Your argument here is invalid because I never said such a thing. I also never said that intangible things can never be products. I am merely saying that I believe it would be copying as opposed to stealing where intangible products are concerned.

Regarding my P2P software, yes, it was previously commercial. Of course I would have objections if there were 'cracked copies'* about. Once again, I have *never* said that the fact it wouldn't be stealing makes it right. I wouldn't be majorly annoyed if, for instance, someone who was broke, or otherwise couldn't afford it (due to sensible reasons), ended up with a copied version of it.

<em>I think you know precisely what I meant.</em> We are on a public forum, so I believe you should make it much clearer as to what you were referring to. I disputed your point previously and you defended your original statement, so it really wasn't clear as to what you were referring to.

I think we should stop this discussion on whether it is stealing or not. We both obviously have some decent arguments and should let others make up their minds. There is plenty of discussion on this topic on the web already.

* - You can't 'crack' CocoGnut as there's no copy protection on it - I don't really believe much in copy protection as it seems to just treat legitimate purchasers as criminals.

 is a RISC OS Usercocodude on 30/6/05 8:53AM
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