Skypilot said >"So in these cases VA has kept them using RISC OS when they could easily have gone over completely to another OS - and now they might well be buying new real Acorn hardware. If this is the case, and I suspect there is something in it, then VA will have helped sales of realAcorn by keeping them in the game. "
That's a bit like saying all the people waiting for the Omega to appear kept people running RISC OS - so therefore Omega was a good thing. While (perhaps) in a few instances that was the case in the long run damage occurred (the long overdue Omega, loss of confidence and eventually MD enticing ROL to have a release for VARPC on the MD Alpha - which I would argue further damaged "real" RISC OS hardware sales).
I've had a good long think about all of this and *perhaps* things are *not* as bad as I thought. Perhaps the "lower" VARPC-SE price is down to the fact that with the lower priced Iyonix (and soon to follow the A9Home retail version) available people were doing the maths and saying - "the PC/VARPC option is *not* the cheaper option anymore" and that there *are* in fact "real" ARM hardware alternatives - in short VA is having to lower their price to compete against a resurgent ARM hardware platform. If that were the motivation I'd be somewhat less worried.
Trapper said > "The emulated operating system is only "vulnerable" in the hands of foolish Windows users. "
Yes quite, but remember many people who buy VARPC may *not* have used windows before (they are RISC OS users in the main). They may not know that the average time for an unprotected Windows PC to become infected on the internet is 20 minutes, they may not realise you need *broadband* to ensure that you *can* download Windows and/or AV patches *quickly enough* to ensure your machine is protected *before* the viruses strike.
Simply using VARPC on Windows does not somehow render them immune to viruses or the need to maintain the Windows patch level currency or AV updates. People using VARPC *ARE* windows users and must forget the RISC OS world - if you want to run RISC OS under Windows you have to do so under *WINDOWS* rules.
adamr said > "I don't understand your point. Surely if using MSOffice is best for some individual user then that's what they should do, by definition?"
I did *not* say they couldn't nor did I indicate that Word was preferable for anything. What I meant was that people would in time get used to Windows and through sheer convenience just load and run the available Windows apps rather than loading VARPC (delay) loading techwriter (or whatever further delay), access file from HostPC etc.,. Windows takes long enough to boot without adding the VARPC delay. Over time RISC OS usage would drop - if you like VARPC is a means to allow RISC OS users to get used to windows - a sort of stepping stone to become a Windows user. Microsoft did such a thing for WordPerfect users - they provided key stroke compatibility in Word so that WP users could get used to and finally switch to Word - which is of course what they did.
This infers *nothing* about the appropriateness or otherwise of Windows Software over RISC OS software - all it says is that people like convenience - if you can do something with one or two fewer mouse clicks and fewer delays people will generally opt for the more convenient. I am not *blaming them* for that either - its just a natural consequence of trying to graft one OS on top of another - generally the base OS (Windows in this case) is the one that will be used and whatever apps are associated with that.