hEgalia - can you please stop berating Grapevine without first finding out? Version 2.10 (release) was submitted to us by the programmer yesterday. It has a lot more features than the originally promised update, and as a free update to a 2 year old program, it is rather tasty. Or perhaps I should make it ransom-ware.... (gotta make the post relavent to topic!) Actually, I think a normal release is just fine.