This discussion is about influence. If you don't influence the large IT firms then you can hardly claim to have major influence in the computer industry. I agree its often the small guys who make things happen. Also I would consider Xerox large, but did not exploit its technology very well if at all. Personally I don't think Intel courted Acorn, if anything they courted ARM but in some ways that was an accident of aquisions. Apple again it was ARM for the Newton. Oracle were trying to promote Network computers and Acorn brought into this. I think Oracle were happy with anybody that brought into their vision, I don't think that courted Acorn per say.