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RiscStation Latetop update

By Chris Williams. Published: 19th Apr 2003, 23:01:31 | Permalink | Printable

Customer finally refunded

Contrary to recent concerns in the user community that RiscStation have stopped refunding portable deposit holders, we've heard from Charles Hope, an ex-RiscStation customer, who today told us all about his deposit ordeal.

The good news is that Charles has been finally refunded after he pulled out of the hapless portable project. He placed a full deposit (almost 1500 quid) after being told by RiscStation that he would be at the top of the queue to receive a new RISC OS powered laptop which were to be delivered in early 2002.

Due to "absolutely no comunication from RiscStation" and despite promises from RiscStation's spin doctor that they would be in contact to discuss the late laptop, Charles wrote to RiscStation on the 26th of March this year to request a refund on his full deposit. After no reply whatsoever from RiscStation (not even a phone call, email or letter), the full deposit was quietly refunded to Charles' credit card on the 11th this month after Charles resorted to writing to his credit card company.

So it appears punters can get their money back if they can put up with RiscStation's distinctively oh so efficacious communication skills.

Rumours
And on top of this, we're also told that Archive magazine have lately told their readers that a portable, and not necessarily a RiscStation one, will be possibly appearing at the Wakefield show this May. Facts? We'll let you know if we get hold of any on this rumour.

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Yay, the Peanut finally arrives! -- Spriteman.

 is a RISC OS UserSpriteman on 19/4/03 11:52PM
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An A4 on the charity stand?

 is a RISC OS Usermonkeyson on 20/4/03 12:00AM
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Sounds interesting, but unless they've got something to sell, it's going to be Stork, Omega, Peanut, Evolution, Phoebe, and RS laptop all over again.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 20/4/03 2:49AM
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I seem to recall that a couple of years ago that dgs tried to get the RiscStation guys to be photographed with his "Colour RISC laptop", which was just a Tadpole :) (A Sun clone)

 is a RISC OS Usernunfetishist on 20/4/03 10:51AM
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I predictthat it will be a Windows machine with VA installed.

Well they've been demonstrating those for the last few shows - they'll probably sell them this time!

 is a RISC OS Usercynic on 20/4/03 12:19PM
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It would suit AU down to the ground, they review Linux, PC software, and now they get to review a fully-blown Wintel PC! Steve, sorry, Rob, will be delighted.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 20/4/03 2:01PM
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It seems to me, in all seriousness, that there is a market for an appropriate Windows PC laptop to be sold with VA5000 pre-installed.

As my partner points out regularly to me, we both first saw the RiscStation laptop (and entered the competition to name it!) at the excellent RISC OS 2000 show. It is now nearly three years on.

People who really need a laptop, rather than those who think it would be neat to own one, will happily go down the PC+VA route. I know that is what I'm now doing.

-- Andrew Harmsworth, Cambridge. www.gcse.com owner and author

 is a RISC OS Userharmsy on 21/4/03 1:50PM
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I'll be holding out for the real thing, whether it comes from RiscStation or not - ideally I'd like to see Castle doing one. -- Gavin Smith, Carrickfergus

 is a RISC OS UserSparkY on 21/4/03 2:59PM
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*If* a VAnotebook has a decent screen size (14" with 1024x768x256 min) then I shall consider it. Any less will not do!

 is a RISC OS Usercynic on 21/4/03 3:29PM
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I'd like to see a proper RISC OS laptop with similar physical specs to the RiscStation one. Or even smaller :) -- Gavin Smith, Carrickfergus

 is a RISC OS UserSparkY on 21/4/03 8:06PM
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Sure, if you need a RISC OS laptop, then VA on an Intel laptop can fit the bit perfectly, but it's nothing you could'nt do yourself 6 months ago for less money than any Acorn dealer would charge you.

Cynic: Red squirrel supports 2MB VRAM, should manager 1024x768x32k

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 21/4/03 8:07PM
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Only a proper RISC OS laptop will be good enough for me - surely that can only realistically contain an XScale nowadays... -- Gavin Smith, Carrickfergus

 is a RISC OS UserSparkY on 21/4/03 9:09PM
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I'd be happy with a lesser machine at the right price, my RISC OS activities don't require much horsepower and a cheaper machine has the potential to expand the market outside it's current userbase. But I too am not really interested in emulating.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 21/4/03 10:44PM
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Why are Xscales being toted as the favoured option,what about an ARM 9? Fast enough surely.

 is a RISC OS Userjlavallin on 22/4/03 6:44AM
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Riscstation should be happy selling a laptop no matter what processor they shove in it. If they don't get it out there soon, they'll lose customers.

Anyone want to buy an Evolution?

Josh, Christchurch NZ

 is a RISC OS Usertimephoenix on 22/4/03 8:11AM
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I think ARM 9 maxes out at less than 300MHz (IIRC), so XScale should probably be a fair bit faster. ARM 10 would be different, assuming they arrive in volume, but we'll be lucky to get this in a desktop, let alone a laptop.:-(

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 22/4/03 10:14AM
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Sparky: A StrongARM laptop would be more than acceptable. Remember that such a thing would not have the RiscPC's slow bus.

jv: read my article on XScales. It's likely that XScale will remain by far the best option for sometime to come.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 11:42AM
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Chocky, yep it would be acceptable, I just meant that if anyone was starting working on a laptop now, that it would likely be XScale...I'd be happy with a SA laptop though :) -- Gavin Smith, Carrickfergus

 is a RISC OS UserSparkY on 22/4/03 12:57PM
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I personally would'nt even care if it had the slow bus, my SA RPC is fast enough for what I use it for, and I've seen Kinetic benchmarks which don't show much improvement over normal SA machines. I think right now price is more important than performance as a cheaper machine will get curiousity purchases from outside the scene., which I doubt we're getting with the price of existing RISC OS machines.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 22/4/03 1:01PM
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thegman: "wouldn't".

sk: not, not at all. The processor could be any one of available ARM processors. There are untold details which affect this.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 1:42PM
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Sorry for the mistake Peter, I know how it upsets you, maybe we could meet one night and you could bring your dictionary, we could become friends, maybe more...

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 22/4/03 3:04PM
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...let drobe.co.uk do the sarcasm, thanks. I've pointed it out because it's a mistake you've made several times, and it detracts from the point you're trying to make.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 3:16PM
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Who is being sarcastic?

I've always made a promise to myself never to get dragged into these spelling arguments RISC OS types are so keen on, but I'll make an expcetion this once (there's a mistake for you!) but before you comment on the spelling on others, you should work on your own. I've seen 'supplemented' as 'supplmented' and a unique spelling of 'basket' in your posts. Also is ... an appropriate way to start a sentence? (genuine question). If spelling 'wouldn't' incorrectly detracts from the point maybe you should look harder for the cryptic clues which give an idea what the word is. Here's one to get you started: 'shouldnt'.

Anyway, how about that night out? It's on me!

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 22/4/03 4:11PM
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I commonly make typos, I freely admit it. And I get people to check. What is your point?

"..." is appropriate to start with it comes after a "...". Which incidentally is innappropriate to end with if you're trying to make a technical point. If often serves to weaken an argument, and its use should be limited to occasional appearances in novels.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 4:18PM
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You can even add an "if" after the "with" if you like.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 4:19PM
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You should have had someone check that one then. My point is that I would have thought that someone who appears to relish correcting other people's spelling mistakes would take a little more care over his own. If you feel that this is not hypocrisy on your part (I'll admit to some on my part for getting dragged into this), bully for you.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 22/4/03 4:32PM
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You beat me to it, ah well.

 is a RISC OS Userthegman on 22/4/03 4:33PM
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I always proof my own stuff before posting anywhere, thanks. And sometimes I make mistakes. And I corrected it in that case. All because it detracts from the point being made.

And yes, using "And" to start a sentence is sometimes valid :p

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 4:36PM
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No it's not, but is now commonly accepted when writing magazine-style articles. :-P -- Michael Stubbs, Leeds

 is a RISC OS Userarenaman on 22/4/03 9:24PM
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It is. Any quick search on google shows that to be the case. for instance:

[link]

There are numerous things like this. And there are even some novels that begin with it. Of course, you should avoid it for formal documents.

-- Peter, drobe.co.uk

 is a RISC OS Usermrchocky on 22/4/03 9:34PM
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