jess (+1.0)
3/9/07 11:26AM |
This looks very interesting.
Is it tied into only MSN or does it have the potential for mutliprotocols?
(A shame it duplicates the only IM system I can reliably access from RISC OS, as my contacts are spread over MSN, yahoo, AIM, ICQ, Google and SIP.)
Does it provide support for contacting Yahoo via MSN?
Does it support user Icons?
Both of these would be very useful and bring it up to the level of the official mac client.
I shall definitely have a play when I get back home. |
jonesd98 (+4.8)
3/9/07 11:28AM |
In reply to sa110:
maybe because this is a free? |
jess (+1.0)
3/9/07 12:38PM |
And why is it called Parmesan? |
Hairy (+1.0)
3/9/07 1:07PM |
At this time, would love to download it but the two links via Drobe, give the error 404 Not Found  |
hEgelia  (+2.5)
3/9/07 1:30PM |
Grapevine is okay, but it's certainly not ideal. Nudges are amusing and can on occasion be useful, it's not essential in my book, like File transfer is. Grapevine does support file transfer, but it requires the user to open the relevant ports in the router manually. From the screenshot above, it does seem there is support for user pictures (avatars) in Parmesan, which has yet to become supported on Grapevine.
In all, I'd say a very interesting development. Certainly so if Parmesan will have better functionality and a more pleasant user interface than Grapevine, which until now remains the only MSN / Windows Live client for RISC OS users. |
jess (+1.0)
3/9/07 2:16PM |
Without access to the application's website, we obviously have no idea why MSN was chosen in preference to jabber, yahoo or icq or a multiprotocol system.
Perhaps the author found a library for MSN that all the correct components exist for and nothing is complete for other protocols.
Or perhaps he has loads of MSN contacts and needs some more advanced features than Grapevine provides. (Webcam maybe  ) |
MikeCarter (+1.0)
3/9/07 8:17PM |
In reply to Hairy:
I would also like to download it, and would love to beta test it, yet it appears that they only put it up for a few hours. |
epistaxsis (+1.0)
3/9/07 8:22PM |
In reply to MikeCarter:
Well I suppose it's one way to limit the number of beta testers... 
In reply to Hairy:
Yeah narked me too |
xyzzy (+2.5)
4/9/07 4:20AM |
As sent to the zap-technical list (0422 on 3 September), beta1 is temporarily gone while Christian fixes some bugs. He also asked that people e-mail him if they are successfully using it so he doesn't have to assume no-one uses it if he doesn't get any reports back. |
xyzzy (+1.0)
4/9/07 4:21AM |
In reply to epistaxsis:
No need to be cheesed off. |
jess (+1.0)
4/9/07 9:18AM |
"so he doesn't have to assume no-one uses it if he doesn't get any reports back"
Would it be possible for beta versions of the program to add an extra contact? One the author sets up for this purpose. This could even be used for feedback to the author. (Status could be away or available for feedback).
In release versions this could be an option.
Grapevine has one feature I love - changing screen name each message from a file. |
MENTAT (+2.6)
4/9/07 4:46PM |
Parmesan. Makes perfect sense if you think about it (I did hear somewhere that it was originally going to be called Nobcheese, but I think parmesan is a better name).
Sa110 - yes you do. Grapevine is fairly annoying and expensive. Parmesan beta is already better in lots of ways.
hEgelia - nudges ARE essential. Oh yes they are.
Unfortunately, msn seems to be massively more widely used by the UK general public than most other IMs. Pleh. |
jess (+1.0)
4/9/07 5:04PM |
parMeSaN ? |
bluenose (+4.2)
4/9/07 6:30PM |
In reply to MENAT
"Grapevine is fairly annoying and expensive"
Well at £29 I think it is an Ok price and it's a good product though I agree that some more functionality would be nice and which I would be prepared to pay for. Then again if I lived in the RISC OS world that some others seem to live in then I would be demanding RComp pay me to use their software as even £0.00 is to much.
Any way nice to see more development in the market and well done to Christian for taking the time and effort with Parmesan. |
em2ac (+1.0)
5/9/07 4:04PM |
In reply to bluenose:
I have to say I agree with you there!
Still not bad to have seomthing for free once in a while! |
em2ac
5/9/07 4:06PM |
I also have to say...I am impressed with the XML and CSS Ideas! :@) |
MikeCarter (+1.0)
6/9/07 5:28PM |
On reading the update this is quite an exciting development, especially the nudge and receiving handwritten messages I don't think even Gaim/Pidgin on Linux does this. |
polas
11/9/07 1:28PM |
Sounds all good - I look forward to using it when the author decides to release it. When the software reaches the release stage, will it still be freeware? I have thought for a while that its a shame we do not have a free MSN client available, like many other platforms. I appreciate that of course for a company to write a client then they require some repayment, but I think that a free client might make the platform more attractive to potential users |
jess
15/9/07 11:15AM |
It's out now. Looks nice. |
hEgelia
15/9/07 5:58PM |
Indeed. Compared to Grapevine, it looks great and already has basic stuff Grapevine still hasn't managed to implement after all these years. Best thing it's free! I wonder what R-Comp and Alan Wrigley are thinking of this... |
jess
15/9/07 6:53PM |
Hopefully improving Oscar support, adding Jabber or Yahoo support and doing nothing to MSN unless it's adding webcam or voice support (which would be lovely, but is too much to hope for realistically). |
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A new RISC OS MSN chat client was released for free tonight for brave punters to test drive. Dubbed Parmesan by developer Christian Ludlam, the software allows people to chat to each other in real-time over the Internet - ideally enabling RISC OS punters to converse with buddies using Windows, Linux, Mac OS X and other computer platforms.