nijinsky (+1.7)
14/8/03 9:49AM |
Just what I have been looking for. A reasonable cost database to create some apps with for you folks. 
Just bought it from R-comp. My first bit of RISC OS software since I ditched the RiscPC desktop.
cheers
bob |
Timothy609 (+1.6)
14/8/03 10:11AM |
I would need Data Power 2 though because I need to be able to show I can yse a relational database for my ICT coursework!
This way it means I can do more work on RISC OS and less on Microsoft Windows! |
nijinsky (+0.2)
14/8/03 10:30AM |
the riscos version of datapower2 is only 99pounds
cheers
bob |
AndrewDuffell 
14/8/03 11:45AM |
Only 99pounds? That IS a lot of money, so buying it just so you can do your coursework on RISC OS (and the possibly never use it again) is a bit OTT. |
vshears
14/8/03 11:49AM |
Data Power 2 is a very nice DB I have used it since it came out (upgrading from Data Power 1). However I must admit I have not yet got arround to upgrading to the latest R-Comp relised version
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Victor Shears, Maidstone |
jess
14/8/03 1:33PM |
"Only 99pounds? That IS a lot of money, so buying it just so you can do your coursework on RISC OS (and the possibly never use it again) is a bit OTT."
As opposed to spending what as an alternative?
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Jess |
em2ac (+0.1)
14/8/03 1:34PM |
To be honest, I think that there would have to be alot more compatibility with other databases (LOTUS & Access), as in load the newest file types (Access XP) and save with no other messing around (double Click).
This alone would interest more uses to the high price of £99.
It is this direct incompatibility issue that has forced me to use Access at work!
Infact how about R-Comp do a suggestion board on all of their products? |
rob (+1.1)
14/8/03 2:15PM |
It's not easy to support MS file formats. Staroffice does it through reverse engineering although Access files are beyond even that.
It's also very hard to retro-fit file compatability to an existing product. It needs a certain amount of 'creativity' where there are differences in functionality.
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Rob |
nijinsky
14/8/03 2:24PM |
WEll I actually have sbase developer 2 but this is RISC OS only.
The reason why I bought the datapower was for cross platform compatability.
I actually use a PC most of the time and just wanted to make some apps that were cross platform to RISC OS.
I could have used access but it is a pigs ear. I also have MS SQL server as the main database. Indeed this comes free with metamorph (used for a file list browser; how is that for overkill) I like the look of datapower and I thnk it is a decent database RAD.
cheers
bob |
ninja (+0.1)
14/8/03 3:09PM |
"It needs a certain amount of 'creativity' where there are differences in functionality."
And of course there are huge differences in functionality between Access and a more straightforward relational database.
Even without that, 99 quid for a desktop relational database with a modern workable UI sounds like a good deal to me. |
nijinsky (+0.1)
14/8/03 3:16PM |
In reply to ninja:
you are totally correct. Access is not a good DBMS. I asked Iota a while ago about ODBC (PC side) but this was not possible. Mind you you could build an ODBC driver with something like Dr.Deebe but this is 2K.
Sinec buying the app I have tried the readder and it can import Tab delimited or CSV so I should eb able to create my app quickly.
to get an idea of what I am writing for RISC OS see.
www.armbase.com/screenshots.html
This shows what I did on my jornada720 and would be a piece of cake on datapower.
cheers
bob |
ninja
14/8/03 4:31PM |
I don't know about Access being a bad RDBMS (I've never really thrashed it hard enough to find out, to be honest), but I do know that the surrounding cludge of forms, macros and (shudder) VBA is not something I'd bother spending money on.
The [Link: www.really.demon.co.uk] ODBC software that's out there already looks like it could be fun, since it gives us access to some serious fault-tolerant RDBMSes, given an investment of hardware. That last point makes this something of a niche interest, of course. |
em2ac (+0.5)
15/8/03 12:57PM |
Ok ODBC would be a great idea to support in DAta Power, but what I was meaning, is that almost all offices use some form of MS file types (yes even on UNIX) so supporting it would bring RISC OS that hughe leap further into the world of the Office, which is great due to the stability and (relitive) security options available on RISC OS
I.E. a much bigger/wider customer base!
This is what would bring in the money
"100% MS Compatibility, with 300% Stability"
dont ya think? |
arawnsley (+2.6)
15/8/03 1:11PM |
Whilst MS compatibility is always important, I am not so convinced that for home users it is as important as it would be in (say) a word processor. After all, how often do you received MS databases via email, or download them from web sites?
It is also hard to imagine an office
worker bringing home the company database on a floppy disc!
However, it becomes much more relavent when looking at client server models, and higher end products like DP2 and beyond. Right now I'm not sure what is going to be practical, but we'd certainly like the professional end of
the DP family to grow that way. |
mikeg (+2.5)
15/8/03 6:20PM |
As ViewPoint and Junior ViewPoint (http://www.logo.com) both read and modify DataPower files, cross-platform compatability is already there, no? R-Comp just need to keep in touch with Logotron, who are all nice guys... |
nijinsky
17/8/03 1:45PM |
In reply to mikeg:
Yes this is what I meant. However it was sbase that was riscos only, not datapower. This was why I bought it. I could have bought the pc version but it is better in riscos land. If I didn't have virtual acorn I wouldn't have bought either. Anothre one up for VA5000.
Now if I could only buy Virtual RiscPC as a stand alone......
cheers
bob |
em2ac
18/8/03 1:54PM |
You may say that it is not important for home users, but by cutting them off to the MS world would, I fear, be a huge loss to those whome wish to use their Acorn for work. (or School?)
Even in the office, as I have been requested to install network cards into A310's - RiscPCs and configure them to access PC areas to dump Data for Access, and Excel) |
skeeter
21/8/03 6:16PM |
DataPower 2 and DataPower Home are both fantastic products; good luck RComp in their future development. I'd have to agree with Andrew as far as the relevance of Access compatability is concerned to the average Acorn user at home. Unfortunately, it's likely that if you need Access you've got a PC for it; I'd love a system similar to Access for the Mac which would then let me access my PC databases on a much friendlier operating system.
Still, maybe its time for a database head to head for the RISC OS platform? Hmmmm....
David |
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Earlier this year we reported that R-Comp had taken over development of DataPower, a database program for RISC OS users. Since then we have seen the development of a 32bit version of 
