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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

It was in reply to it someone making a comment that CE had a lot in common to 98. This Dev who I know very well mentioned to them it had more in common with 95 (PS CE2 was released in 1997).

This developer isn't run of the mill and is seriously up on CE and WM.

Just don't understand Drucks comment. I guess he meant 32MB but I never said CE didn't fit in 32MB. I said stripped down and compressed it may fit in 10MB and I said the custom Windows CE rom image I am building for my device would struggle to fit in 32MB.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 4:05PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

And you know what it was a CE software hardware dev that said it was a lot like 95 so I don't know what to say really.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 3:40PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

32bytes?

even 32k?

kernel maybe.

If you meant 32MB that don't see where I said it wouldn't...

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 3:13PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Agreed, though CE can only fit into tiny spaces if you hack away parts of the OS. When installin in truely tiny spaces it is usually for an embedded device with a spcific purpose so you can build a rom image with most things stripped out.

Modern CE - if you don't include any OS software components but all the files and dll's required to make the OS with GUI work - even if you compress the OS would like still take 12-16Mb of ROM.

IIRC CE has quite a lot in common with Win95.

I am currently building a custom rom for my StrongArm CPU'd HPC (like a mini netbook with 7" screen). So I know how big full CE with GUI and normal OS components and dll's is.

My problem is trying to fit all the software I want into the 32Mb rom now :)

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 1:49PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Don't agree... Firefox is a heavy beast on memory.

Ok so it's running CE but that would likely mean it is missing things firefox needs so would need a lot of extra bits to make it run.

CE is not really designed to run large applications like this so although the OS is designed to be light I feel CE is not going to give Firefox a benefit. If anything it may give it more problems that cause overheads.

Anyway disagree is you wish. I am sure RISC OS is lighter than CE (it fits in a much smaller footprint) although is likely missing some more modern developments CE may now have.

I really wasn't trying to start in in depth discussion or ask for people to pick holes in post after post about why I am wrong.

Just impressed with the speed of Desktop firefox on these modern, recently released, ARM processors. Am I wrong? Does this not show some of the power available? Not sure any Xscale up to 600Mhz would make a decent job of running a desktop version of firefox?

Most CE devices with 400Mhz xscales and a good GPU struggle to make Pocket IE or Opera Mobile run at an acceptable speed and it is designed to be small and light.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 1:13PM
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There may be for CE...

Again it was really just seeing the software run on hardware that could be targets for RISC OS and won't be too diffrent in performance to the beagle board.

If the tegra can handle desktop firefox 3.5 with full flash support and 4 tabs (due to the 512Mb ram) and the speed of the browsing looked excellent (would say faster then most atom machines I have seen) then it bodes well for the ability of the new ARM hardware.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 10:46AM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Well...

android is based on linux but is not a full build...

However an ARM Windows CE build is new.

Just thought it was good to see more firefox development on ARM really. And how well it seemed to run on the new hardware which will be of interest to us.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 5/6/09 8:30AM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Well this is intresting....

Nvidia Tegra (ARM 11 with GPU & DSP) which is going to come with Windows CE has been shown running the desktop version of Firefox 3.5

This a day after someone showing a android cortex machine running firefox.

Why is this intresting - well it managed 4 tabs at once. It means someone has compiled an ARM Linux version. And a WinCE ARM version of desktop firefox. Maybe some of the work here will make it easier to use Firefox on RISC OS on these new processors.

It does somewhat show of the power of these new chips being that a cortex should be 2 x the CPU performance of the tegra.

[link]

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 4/6/09 4:32PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

I agree,

Don't think anyone was trying to give Jeffery more work.

We are excited about the possability of good portable hardware and are pointing out some of the possabilities coming to market that could be a good base for risc os.

Doesn't meen there will be a port from them but if it is someones intention to have a go surely it's good to see all the hardware coming out.

Esspecially any based on beagle board or OMAP cortex's

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 4/6/09 10:05AM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Actually looking at the vids from now and previous incarnations the freescale units seem to be slow compared to the others.

I think the best cpu for power use would be the Snapdragon with it being faster clock for clock than cortex cores and 1.3ghz and dual core 1.5ghz units on the way.

The last option is the Nvidia Tegra which seems to have 12 units including a good few netbooks on the way. IIRC it is a 667Mhz Arm 11 with DSP and GPU, They have HDMI out and think support 1080p on the HDMI.

However the results seen from omap seem good so far so hopefully there will be enough netbooks based on this to give us some nice options.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 3/6/09 8:51AM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Really? You seen this?

1Ghz OMAP Cortex

And such a sexy case :)

[link]

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 2/6/09 2:49PM
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Just read a bit more...

The 1.3Ghz also has improved Grfx capabilities

Also looks like Qualcomm has 1.5Ghz Dual Core Snapdragons on the way as well :)

So maybe we should be having a more in depth discussion and plan formation about how multi-core support/better multi tasking could be implemented into RISC OS. Would it be worth having a specifiic discussion area set up for this purpose? Surely now the ROOL project is showing it's usefullness it would be worth having a think about some real improvements and moving the OS forward.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 1/6/09 12:44PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Well,

Qualcom just announced the new 45nm snapdragon will be sampling from end of year.

1.3Ghz (30% faster with 30% less power draw)

[link]

John

PS chipset includes wi-fi, bluetooth, video acceleration, HSDPA, CDMA

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 1/6/09 11:18AM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Did someone not make available WIMP2 or somthing like that which swapped from being co-operative multitasking to preemptive.

For starters would it not be an idea to investigate if this could be implemented into RISC OS 5? I am sure pre-emptive multitasking would be a good start.

Would pre-emptive multitasking also not make it possible to develop further and dole out diffrent tasks to diffrent cores? (ok so not multi-thread but at least it would be able to carry out more than one thing at the same time).

Just wondered as not sure if that is workable but as RISC OS 5 is open source and development seems to be going forward what are peoples thoughts? Is pre-emptive a good idea?

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 21/5/09 1:05PM
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On Five tips for ROL over the next five years:

Besides....

I think it was said ROL has not paid all it's back license fees to castle.

If that is the case then it may be as well if they don't start causing problems.

They may make a current income stream but how long will that exist if we have Iyonix running ROS 5, Beagle Board running ROS 5, Netbooks with ROS 5, emulator with ROS 5. If we have a stable RPC/A7000 build of ROS 5 why would people stick with diffrent versions? (ok so I know some may for certain software or summint) but if we have new fast hardware all on same OS would it not make sense to have older hardware on Same OS as well (would be nice for software developers).

If that happens I am willing to bet unless ROL do somthing before it happens all their income streams will be seriously reduced if not gone. Hence my point they need to either position themselfs to get RISC OS 6 onto portable hardware/new hardware. Or make Select features sit on top of ROS 5 and quick....

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 20/5/09 1:13PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Well the Touch book (beagle based netbook/tablet) is pre-order price of about £270 with the keyboard module (ok so mass storage is 8gb SD but risc os isn't too heavy on storage a small usb key or usb hdd would supplement it nicely).

If that is the pre-order price then I would expect it to come down in price once retailing.

If it is running RISC OS 5 then that is free. + A lot of you out there will already own a lot of the software you would want to use.

OK so we could do with some holes in the software filled and some reasonable freeware (if we wanted to attract people to have a go) but if a device like this gets a few users back in the swing and maybe a few developers who want to make use of the hardware features to provide better media replay etc. I can only see this as a good thing.

I will be in the market for a cortex based netbook anyway (linux or CE based) so if I can buy somthing that will fill my netbook needs and allow me to have a RISC OS portable I would defo buy more software or updates in our small market.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 14/5/09 1:33PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Think you will find machines based on cortex (unless software/drivers are badly implemented) will be considerablly faster than any xscale devices.

I have used so many xscale based devices (including some with poropper GPU's) and have never been overwhelmed by their speed. In fact In the Win CE world I have a 206Mhz strongarm CE device that will browse the web considerablly faster than a number of devices with 400-533Mhz xscale and one with Ati Imageon when browsing and doing in normal tasks, using GUI (in fact even outpaces the xscale in PIcalc up to 200,000 decimal places where after they seem to offer almost the same results.)

IMHO with all the places we will see cortex cpu's can't see it is worth persuing any devices with xscales in them

Still who cares. Beagle board project is great and there is going to be a netbook with a beagle board inside it... :)

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 14/5/09 11:55AM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Nope...

There are plenty of slower ARM based hardware. (netbook like devices) that can already be bought that run linux or CE. No point though as they are slow and cheaply made. Cortex ones will be available Q3 and they are considerablly faster with good grfx hardware and will be available retail for a similar price.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 14/5/09 11:40AM
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On Five tips for ROL over the next five years:

You may say it is not up to ROL to make new machines available. But if only STD are working on hardware. And there are plenty of suitable netbook/beagle boards etc. machines available or on way. Why would ROL not want to make an OS that people can load onto new, fast and up to date portable hardware.

Saying it is up to a licensee seems very short sited because if no licensee decides to offer new hardware and you'll have no customers to sell new copies of the OS to.

Unless ROL want to die they need to take an active role in either making the OS work on new (and cheap) hardware. Or they need to open up all details on the HAL and OS building so ports can be done. After all I am sure the A9 market is not huge and the RPC one must be shrinking.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 14/5/09 11:36AM
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On Five tips for ROL over the next five years:

ROL tried.

What the feck happend to RON (Risc-OS on Netbook). If a few guys can get a desktop booting on a beagle board this quickly how come ROL couldn't get RON out the door?

There were a hell of a lot more people left in the market back then and so many people were saying I want risc os on a laptop.

I fear ROL won't be able to get Risc OS 6 running on a cortex netbook any time soon (thought I guess the HAL will offer a easier route than they had back when RON was going to happen).

Hope I am wrong. Agree with the things said in this article.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 13/5/09 12:53PM
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On First screenshot: Beagleboard runs RISC OS 5 desktop:

Nice work...

The cortex netbooks will reach market. None are actually overdue yet. All companies involved have said Q3 this year there will be aprox 5 available and a further 5 before christmas.

A few may not make it but I would have thought there will be some suitable units in the collection.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 13/5/09 12:33PM
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On RISC OS 5 spotted running on RPCEmu:

woohoo...

Will try it tonight as mucked up and deleted boot sequence. Then discovered CD rom in risc pc won't read CD-R's for some reason and can't get networking working with uniboot. Which leaves me no way to get fancyboot into the machine...

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 30/4/09 11:58AM
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On RISC OS 5 spotted running on RPCEmu:

Ah so I modify the Ask utility to get rid of the CLib error.

Will try again tonight.

john

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 29/4/09 3:13PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

none of you seen this? posted links on ROOL and Icon bar some time back.

It is a convertable tablet/netbook which is built from a beagle board

[link]

So we already have portable hardware ready to rock when this port is ready.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 29/4/09 3:01PM
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On ARM shows off prototype netbooks:

I belive all 4 of these machines are Cortex based processors.

2 of them are snapdragon and 2 are another make but are all supposed to be A8's

You seen this??? looks like it is based on the beagle board which is the board being used for the ROOL HAL.

[link]

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 4/3/09 1:57PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

Ok here is some to check out we are looking at 1Ghz cortex A8's here;

[link]

[link]

[link]

Also these are just to give you an idea of some of the hardware coming up the qualcomm snapdragon above will have gprs/3g/hsdpa hardware which is low power enough to be always connected so you could have it collect emails for you when not powered up etc.

I think both of these chips are capable of 720p but obviously have a lot more horsepower than a 450mhz A8. There will be A9's and multicore versions of the CPU's available at some point in future but these first version are aiming for a retail release of mid 2009.

To give you an idea of other hardware that an oem has obviously made for mio the following prototype is the "Mio MID" which is an arm11 based machine (think somewhere about the 600-700mhz area). But apart from the usual it has GPS built in.

The only reason I mentioned the coulbook is they run a CPU which is already used (looking at the SOC spec from samsung it looks like the addresses for memory and lan etc would have a similar address). They are also cheap. If someone was buying in bulk they can be purchased from the OEM for under $100. This would make for a very cheap RISC OS portable. ie cheap enough for ex-users or users who have drifted towards other OS's to maybe have a little punt.

A lot of people had never seen any of those bits of hardware so I am not saying do this or the next thing. Just making the links available so people can see some of the upcoming arm hardware.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 26/1/09 9:46AM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

What GPU does A9 have?

Was only suggesting as CPU and a lot of the stuff that needed changed for A9 would be the same.

As you say though GPU work would be diffrent.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/1/09 5:09PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

Sorry... not the jointech one.

See here for the Cuol Book which uses a 533Mhz Samsung S3C2440A and as the samsung chip is an SOC and the A9 already runs on one would it not be somthing we could have Risc OS working on very quickly?

[link]

also this is the same hardware; [link]

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/1/09 3:05PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

really? Pandora? it is a tiny thing mostly aimed a gaming.

There are some real nice netbook sized devices that are very portable and, for me anyway, would be more intresting.

A number of Chinease netbooks based around Samsung arm9 SOC's exist. Search for Jointech JL7100. (if it is the same chip as A9 can't remember but think it may be or a close varient) then this may be somthing that could be made to work a lot quicker and easier then a pandora.

Also we have netbook like devices coming (likely in next 5 months) with cortex CPU's from Freescale and Qualcomm (capable of 720p), nice screens and typeable keyboards. They will likely even come in cheaper than a pandora.

John

PS good luck though any work to understand optomising code for new ARM versions and working with porting will undoubtedly help with future devices.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/1/09 2:41PM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

mmmmm.

My local chippy does a mean smoke sausage :) one of the only one I know who does them in batter.

At least he cooks everything fresh and it is nice and dry+crispy (inc the chips) unlike most chip shops where it is greesy soggy muck.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 19/12/08 11:20AM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

Ah another scot!

Nice one.

Should it not have been a couple a cans o tennets super and a Pie :)

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 18/12/08 4:18PM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

Yer not kidding.

I know most people are already gone from the market but I do wonder if it is realised just how much this sort of thing must put some people off.

Still I am also gonna kick my shoes off, open some popcorn and enjoy the show. :)

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 18/12/08 11:33AM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

It does though seem to be true that ROL didn't submit all of it's changes in the 1st year as per the terms of the original PACE license.

So surely, regardless of anything else, the license says, ROL is not really entitled to claim any of the rights it had if they didn't stick to the agreement in full???

I am not saying this is true just bringing the point up so ROL can maybe respond to it.

Cheers

John

PS and if castle are correct that you are actually that far behind in royalties surely that is another breach of license?

Again no acusations here, jsut two of the points raised I don't feel are fully resolved in my head and wondered how the parties involved see them.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 18/12/08 10:50AM
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On Blu-ray disc burn breakthrough:

What about simply RiscBurn

:)

Well done on the achivements

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 15/4/08 5:42PM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

to:mripley

If riscos is in millions of set top boxes worldwide then it is capable of controlling a device made for delivering video media to a TV screen (Yes it can not do it through a software front end on current desktop hardware but in a Home theatre PC you would want the video full screen anyway so this could be delivered the same way as all the Risc OS STB's did it - esspecially if it is a STB-esk computer).

Also Castle has said on a number of occasions that I can remember they did a lot of work on media replay with really good results unfortunatly due to it being comercial work the are currently not free to release anything from it (though I got the impression it seemed to be that they would be able to use it at some point).

There is also a superb free RDP client that runs very nicely on just an SA risc PC with a 10mbit connection (infact it runs very nicely indeed) So any modern Risc OS harware with 100mbit would easilly do very well indeed at allowing access to a desktop machine from TV.

Again RPC can handle music replay fine whether it be CD or MP3 so music delivery is ready to go.

Also in the respect I see the hardware being sold multi-tasking isn't as big a deal as it is a media player first and you are single tasking while watching a film (playing music may benefit from being able to select a track while playing one so some basic multitasking) - It would need a nice media browsing front end.

I am not proposing it be a desktop replacement... just a route back into new customers homes but with an up-to-date cpu it would be nice for current Risc OS users as well. RDP makes a unique selling point (a lot of people have PC's in studies or bedrooms).

Then they discover it has it's own desktop with some built in software...

If it's cheap enough they buy the kids a media player for their room... They have a play with it and get used to the desktop and start using it for computer tasks....

I can see this being possible as media player / stb hardware is manufactured in bulk by OEM's and the pricing could be reasonablly keen compared to harware built bespoke for risc os or using an off the shelf eval board.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 7/1/08 4:43PM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

Now I would love this...

I also think it would be too late... but if it does happen it there is always the chance it could bring some new development.

Trouble is:- I run a Sigmarion 3. It uses CE .Net 4.1 (not WM or PPC). the interface is just like a windows front end with touch screen.

To give a rundown on hardware. CPU - Xscale 400Mhz (will overclock to 530Mhz), 64Mb ram, 32Mb rom, 800x480 5" TFT, 8Mb Ati Imageon 4200 grfx chip, qwerty keyboard, SD card, CF card, USB host and slave, mic in, headphone out.

On this device I can; * Play a video encoded in Xvid at 1400kbps, 800x480, 25fps with and audio track of 256Khz MP3 or AC3 sound. * I can browse with Pocket IE5 or Picsel Browser (Opera Mobile will be working on it soon and is supposed to be very fast). I have flash7 on it. * I use Qmail3 (full pop3/imap including secure mail and html), * I have a word processor, spreadsheet, database and presentation software * I have a full set of PIM apps that look like the full outlook versions * I can use Wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, 10/100 etc..etc... * Other software I have:- realplayer, skype, claculator (good one), voice recorder, SMS software, sync mobile's phonebook, Messenger and there is lots I can't remember at the moment, Remote desktop Protocol.

Lastly though - It is instant on, stable, 5-6hrs battery life (4hrs on wi-fi), partially transflective screen, the browser will run flash7.

The Sig3 was sold untill 2003 (IIRC) so I puts things a little more in perspective as to where our hardware is.

Now the above isn't a dig at Risc OS it is just an example of the hard fact that in a lot of ways RISC OS has a lot of areas where even PDA's (HPC's) are a lot further ahead. Now there are some advantages to RISC OS as well desktop publishing apps, photo editing apps, art apps etc. where the software is actually of desktop quality and very good indeed but a mobile device these days for most users has to combine PIM, media and internet duties and in a lot of cases GPS as well as anything else it does. The market would also be limited as I doubt this will bring any new users to Risc OS who would want to buy software it will really only sell to current users and maybe people recently out of the market who were waiting on such a device.

There are even a good number of other strongarm based Handheld PC's (as the clamshell CE PDA's were called) that have flashrom and can have the rom re-flashed by the user and would be a great device for a port. NEC 900C, Smartbook G138 (7" 800x480).

I think the big opertunity Risc OS had (and I think the Xbox and Playstation3 and other consoles have also really missed out on) Is the humble old cheap home computer market. How many RISC OS based set top boxes were sold? I belive it was in the millions. They were basically computers and with the addition of some small extra hardware (network port, keyboard/mouse and an HDD) would have made a super replacement for the market that the amiga, bbc etc, used to fill (and as people were buying the set top box anyway would buy it for the set-top box abilities).

people are building media PC's now (still the problem is it's a software OS, It crashes and has slow boot times - well for a consumer device that sits below a TV it does). So if Castle gets to the time when it can use and release this media playing work they did then would the next Risc OS computer not maybe take the form of some sort of Home theatre media player? Surely the market here is still large and it's not a market where people are pre-disposed to wanting an OS by microsoft. But if the mediaplayer happened to come with the ability to do some browsing and install some software as standard it could bring people intrested in buying software to the Risc OS market who otherwise would know nothing about it and wouldn't even give it a go otherwise?

So basically a media player that would handle video, music, have a DVD slot etc. with a nice front end but with the ability to access an OS desktop to use some basic office/internet software (and maybe even an RDP front end so customers can remote their PC from the telly - got to add features that will make it sell and diffrent from the competition and the RDP ability would surely be a good selling point). Now castle are in the set top box market so if they could make the next generation development hardware and consumer hardware a development of a set-top box type arrangement I am sure it would keep the manufacturing costs down due to the volume of boards made in the STB/media player market. Ok so expandability is limited but a USB port should take care of the ability for at least some future expansion.

Not sure if anyone else thinks the same but I think Castle are really the only global player with the STB work they have done and if that is what they make and specialise in then I can see it as the only route left to get Risc OS into a large number of homes with hardware Castle is comfortable with. It's also the only market I can see where the majority of people don't have this kind of device yet but I think most people will so there is still a large market to play for.

Now if the media player works and increases the market it would make a Risc OS laptop/PDA type devices and new and better software a viable project as there would be a number of people intrested in taking the same desktop as the media player came with out and about with them (even if there are a few holes in the software portfolio though hopefully they would quickly be filled if there was a market - I bet oregano 3 would be back on the cards and appear very quickly).

I can't see another route here at all. Every other route I can see is really only going to sell to current Risc OS users and pretty much nobody else and what we need is a route to get hardware into a large number of homes to actually grow and improve.

either that or we need a really really bad virus that actually wipes millions of peoples data and renders loads of PC's unworkable for an extended period of time causing companies and people to eveluate what they need from a PC :) ok so that's just wishfull thinking.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 7/1/08 12:59PM
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On NetSurf banner lost in post:

I don't think I have had any of the last 10 first class parcels I sent turn up next day....

Also the last "Next day Delivery" item I had sent to me took 7 days to arrive :(

And yet they keep trying to tell us things turn up on time.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 13/12/07 12:05PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

My Sigmarion 3 is superb for all the tasks I need when out and about; As you say softmaker gives it full DOC and Excel compatability... I have Gemini Pim's (full suite just like outlooks PIM's), The latest development is redgear which will allow me to run the latest version of opera for WM devices with no mods or hacking (and opera is supposed to fly on Sig3 - redgear also allows any other WM apps to run). I have Qmail which can handle all mail inc Gmail and yahoo secure mail. Picsel browser (which I think came from an ex-acorn based company) + lots of other usefull apps. I can get 4.5hrs out the battery on wi-fi - it runs a 400Mhz Xscale (which I can clock to 530Mhz with no issues), It has an Ati Imageon 2d chip so I can watch very high quality video on it's TFT screen.

I was just trying to make the point that there have been plenty of suitable laptop-esk HPC's with arm processors and nothing came of them even with a much bigger market than there is now (with the exception of RON but not sure how far that got before it was canned - shame as they still sell netbook pro machines now and they are very nice indeed - And I seem to remember ROL saying it was nearly working).

This is a chance for a cheap ulta-portable RISC OS machine though. Up until now when VA's responce to running on linux was there are too many diffrent versions to make it worth while. The eeePC though isn't just a std laptop - It's cheap and Asus are gearing up to produce them in the millions. So we now have an ultraprotable laptop that is cheap, will sell to millions of people and for development will mean it is a standerdised hardware and software platform for VRPC to be produced for....

I am going to buy one, so are you. If VRPC was available for it I would buy that and I am sure there are a lot of others on here who would get the asus just to run VRPC if it was available.

What's the alternative? either a cheap heavy windows or Mac laptop (I have an Ibm X21) or for somthing in the eeePC's format options are limited to a very expensive sony picturebook or one of the other rare expensive mini PC's.

I think we have an opertunity here to get a super little machine for RISC OS that could likely boot and get into the RISC OS desktop quicker than XP can boot. Is it not very very tempting....

Virtual Acorn are you eavesdropping? How about it?

Anyhow, still really impressed with the 7000 based laptop project so I'll leave the comments to get back on toppic.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 15/11/07 4:55PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

Well lets see.....

There was Netbook and netbook pro, HP Jornada 720 & 728, NEC 900C, Sigmarion 3 and good pile of other arm based HPC's and mini laptops that all would have made super risc os mobile computers. All of which would have made a suitable base for a laptop and all of the above have loads better battery life than any laptop.

Even now with enough work the 900C might still be a good candidate as it has flashrom and can have it's OS and bootloader flashed easilly and there are plenty available second hand.

Though I suppose with the eeepc being so portable (and well priced - I am going to get one when I have the money) that a version of VRPC for the eeepc's flavour of linux might be a very intresting proposition for all us remaining risc os users. VRPC would be great on a stable linux machine esspecially with the boot times and price of this machine.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 15/11/07 1:32PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

Also meant to say previous acorn laptops had to have a circuit board built to fit the case they chose.

This time we already have somthing that is suitablly small and available to buy and are only looking for a suitable sized space to put it in.

By the way I meant to say on my first comment. I love the lego laptop and think it is suchj a good project. Well done :)

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 12/11/07 1:02PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

I didn't mean for a professional laptop.

I was more thinking for a DIY option where you wouldn't mind finding a S/H laptop.... There are a few laptops out there that have a lot of technical documents available so with a little searching it would be possible to find one with the spec of the panel input.

I have a feeling there was once a laptop that had a VGA in so the LCD could be used with an external device. Somthing like this would only leave finding enough space for A9 circuit board.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 12/11/07 12:59PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

If we could find a sutable laptop as a donner machine that had enough info available about it's screen inputs I reckon it wouldn't be silly to shoehorn an A9 circuit board in it.

Keep the hdd in normal location (or CF instead). Keep Li-Ion battery as they usually have the charging circuit built into the battery. I am sure the A9 circuit would fit easilly into the space where the motherboard was and just use some cable to connect up the USB and 10/100 ports on laptop case.

Ok it would need some thinking about to actually find a way to monitor the battery level as Li-ions don't like being run flat.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 12/11/07 11:53AM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

Talking of performance....

Just wondered.... can the Iyonix not be overclocked? I have a HPC form factor machine with a 400Mhz PXA255 and I can overclock it to 530Mhz with no ill effects (well appart from slightly reduced battery life).

And in such a small portable decive it seems there are no cooling issues even if I test for prolonged periods at 100% load.

Just makes you wonder if I little more is available from the Iyonix's stock cpu (esspecially if better cooling was installed)...

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/08/07 10:22AM
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On NetSurf 1.0 is worth millions on paper:

It defo rocks...

Was using it last night and enjoying the browsing (it seems to get faster all the time as well)...

Also agree, set up paypal or bank account as I too would drop a small donation from time to time...

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 6/6/07 12:32PM
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On Wakefield 2007 live news and photos:

When is the full Drobe show report going to appear... I was unable to make it due to car MOT coming up and a few bits needing done...

IIRC drobe usually has the report online within a day or two of the show (so I patiently checked every 10min or so since monday)...

On a more serious note glad to see everyone seemed to have a good time and all the feedback and comments I have read seem to be so upbeat.

Hope to make next years and or one of the other shows.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/5/07 3:06PM
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On ROL ship second Select 4 release:

arawnsley: so is it the customers job to actually do ROL's work for them now?

I guess I may have missed somthing pertinant to the statement as I can't quite belive you meant that a potential customer should fix ROL's website.

???puzzled???

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 1/5/07 10:32AM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

The setting up of a fund/charity to help develop software on the RISC OS platform is not the same thing as organising donations purely for Netsurf.

The mention of Netsurf donations were my initial thoughts (and if it was the only option or preffered option I have said I would contact the developers to see if it would be welcomed and then try to assertain what they need and offer my help)...

After that suggestion a few people have suggested actually trying to raise money or create a fund for the wider field of any RISC OS software development. This 2nd idea has no specific link to netsurf. This could be to help development of software to fill any gaps in the RISC OS software portfolio.

As far as I can see the discussion that people are going to have at wakefield is about this wider idea about software development so really doesn't need to ask the Netsurf team anything.

I hope this clears up any confusion that appears to have crept in.

Thanks

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 25/04/07 2:40PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Don't think I will make wakefield but am defo happy to offer my time and assistance in any way I can if this is going to go ahead...

I will try and see if I can make it to wakefield but think I have roadtax and MOT due that month and I know I'll need a few bits done so money is going to be really short...

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 25/04/07 12:01AM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Well yeah I kinda knew he wasn't saying abandon ship... But I did get the feeling he was dismissing the idea saying it wouldn't really help so not worth doing.

Regardless of anything else I am defo going to ask on the netsurf mailing list, at least it's better to take the first step and ask the question regardless of if we may come up with a better plan down the line.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 4:04PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Druck:

So do we just give up??? Give in??? and hope a browser with modern standards appears with no funding at all which seems even less likely than one with even a little funding???

If anyone has some good suggestions now is the time to make them.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 2:43PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Meant to say....

If everyone else thinks a universal independent fund for RISC OS browsers is the best idea then I would be happy to offer nay help I can to that as well.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 12:51PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

I am just going to ask if the netsurf people think it's a good idea and offer help if they want it...

I like netsurf and think it is a fantastic example of how software should be developed, they have impressed me in the professional way they have worked and are constantly driving forward in an impressive manner...

I think firefox is bloated and slow (even for an ionix) and IMHO isn't a solution to the RISC OS browser issue (it's a headline grabbing stop gap for ionix users).

Also I only have an RPC and with all of that in mind why would I want to offer firefox my personal time and/or help?

Nobody is suggesting knee jerk reactions and this is why I am going to approach the developers and ask if they think it is a good idea, Offer any help i can to them and only if it is a "Yes" to the above invite suggestions as to how any fundraising should be structured so it isn't just a mess with money being thrown at nothing in particular.

John.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 12:48PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Ok I will drop a mail into the Netsurf mailing list and see if donations to help with the development would be welcomed. If yes I will see if they have ideas as to how they might like it structured and offer my time to help if they wish it.

Thanks

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 12:12PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Agreed... I would be happy to donate somthing towards Netsurf (even if not a huge sum I would give something every few months as and when I could afford it).

I would even be happy to give up some time to help with the fundraising if it needs someone to do it.

Is there a route to donate at the moment or does this need setup.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 11:57AM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Is it possible we could find out what still needs done and how much it was going to cost?

I suppose it may be somthing RISC OS users could get together and raise the money to pay for the work??? There always seemed to be money for the various unix porting projects so can't see it would be the hardest thing in the world to raise money for...

What does everyone else think?

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/4/07 11:41AM
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On Vigay: I was told to remove my Firefox 2 tutorial:

So I guess this is going to be a project that people have donated good money for that is not going to be finished?

Peter: If you didn't want people to use FF in it's current state why release it? Because telling people to wait for the fix rather than use a help guide to get a released version working is like saying.

Here is a program I have released but please don't try to use it till I make a fix.

It makes no sense at all and looks like an excuse for leaving.

just my 2p worth.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 20/3/07 10:33AM
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On How to port RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC:

druck:

In my mind we need to forget about 26bit for the RPC version. We already have a 26bit OS and I am not suggesting we re-invent the same thing as this will still result in 2 versions of the OS and solve nothing.

Yes! A 32bit version will break old 26bit software the same as it did on the Ionix. Only by creating a 32bit os that is as close as possible in all versions do I see this as a good, sensible and viable way forward.

I am in total agreement with you if anyone is suggesting we re-build a 26bit version from the ROOL source for the RPC. It will only result in a complete waste of time as we only loose features and gain nothing in terms of making it easier to develop software and it won't create a market for more software to be 32bitted.

Lastly if the RPC, Ionix & I guess A9 as well can run the same 32bit version of the OS so software developers can now justify developement of a 32bit version to the new enlarged pot of customers who require a 32bit version of software. On top of this 32bitting of software may present the developer with a good opertunity to add a missing feature as they will be ammending the code anyway and with just a single version of the OS to code for it will likely make any development of new features easier (though of course that may also not always be the case in some types of software that would benefit or specifically need new hardware features in later machines).

I hope this better demonstrates where I am coming from and where I see this as a potential good thing for the market rather than a bad thing.

ATB

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 31/1/07 3:32PM
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On How to port RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC:

Tell you what lets agree to disagree on this...

I really don't want to deal with ROL either as last year I emailed them about the middle of the year to purchase RO roms from them and must have sent 4 or 5 emails (form different accounts in case that was a problem) to get the price so I could order their product and to date I have had no response at all from ROL...

How do they expect to sell a product if they won't reply to a customer who wants to buy the OS.... And I challenge you to tell me how treating a potential new customer (someone returning to risc os) like this isn't going to put a nail in the proverbial coffin?

Also I am not stupid and on examening the options I buy the os then I can subscribe to "the Select scheme" to get more functionallity... Who in their right mind that is returning to the market is gonna pay ROL money for select with the track record they have had so far....

You say you want the market moved on well lets make it happen and give everyone a product the can get behind...

As I said at the top of this post I can see we will never agree on this so I'll end the conversation after this post but take note a few thousand A9's and Ionix's dosn't constitute a market for any software developer and if you want all the software to be available on the markets fastest and premium hardware your gonna have to find numbers from somewhere. And I suggest it will take a lot longer to make ROOL available on a totally new device and attract new customers than it will to get it working on an RPC which people already own...

Well that's it i'll say no more on the subject otherwise we will still be posting this time next year...

Thanks for reading

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 31/1/07 2:31PM
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On How to port RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC:

erm I am not talking about stuff that runs exclusively on RO5 we are talking about all the software that doesn't run on RO5 of which I belive from what others are saying there is quite a bit...

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 31/1/07 1:47PM
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On How to port RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC:

martin: A bit short sighted because if everyone was using RO5 then ROL may at last make select work on RO5 and you never know actually make the tools you need available on RO5 as part of that so you don't need to use two machines.....

Again as on the other thread if we are all on one OS there is more chance missing software will be made to work on the version everyone is using as there is a valid market on RO5 to sell the updated product to...

It may allow some people to get experience making the OS work on diffrent hardware and develop skills to a point where they may be able to go on and help porting to more intresting devices not everyone can start at the deep end on harware they don't know...

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 31/1/07 10:25AM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

david:

And a lot of software hasn't been updated to 32bit at all....

Have we not already quoted if everyone with an RPC was on 32bit and using the same OS thus making the market a lot bigger and demand a lot bigger for any updated application it may encourage some software to be updated and maybe even have some new features added at the same time (surely this would also benefit ionix users)

You say it's pointless I say it isn't - just continued repeating of it being pointless doesn't make it so. I think the people who think it would help the market have put forward a number of reasons it may help in this discussion so far but I havn't seen any of those reasons countered by any response or explanation. I am very happy to be proven wrong or have a reason given why it won't work but it always seems lacking.

I am not going to spend a large amount of money on an Ionix but I am happy re-learning Risc OS on my RISC PC which is cheap enough that if it doesn't work out I don't loose too much money. Again are there not so many RPC not being used that may have some life brought back...

A lot of people are probablly not capable of trying to make Risc OS work with a totally new device but are farmiliar with the hardware and how to directly interface with the harware in the RPC making it a valuable learning exersize in my opinion. Which will give them some knowledge of what files and code needs adjusted and may give them enough knowledge to make a move to a diffrent ARM device possible... The diffrence between the way I see it and the way you see it is let people learn in stages rather than throwing them in at the deep end. Yes some people may swim at the deep end so let them start at the deep end and go directly for a new device. But why let that stop the ones who would drown and either not try or give up at the deep end start off in more farmilair teritory.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/01/07 1:53PM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

Alan:

Nice one --- I knew I had also seen them somewhere else before.

by the way the RPC I got from you is going nicely.... Though it's now got 233SA, ROS 4.02, 128MB ram and a few other upgrades since I got it.

Garry: exactly it will allow people to learn how hardware abstraction has been implemented and gain experience to port onto other devices... I seem to think the port of ArmLinux was the learning experience and catalyst that allowed a lot of the other Linux ports to take place off the back of it....

TBH making Risc OS 5 work on an RPC may actually help in this direction as well because it will allow people to learn about the abstraction and the modules/components of the OS that interface with the harware while using hardware that is very farmiliar so it will remove the problem of actually interogating all the hardware specs as well. Not to mention a lot of the mobile ARM devices ran on 200-233mhz strongarms so CPU power may be similar.... And getting Risc OS 5 working on the A9 would also prove very usefull as it's Arm9 will be simmilar to a lot of portable devices.

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/01/07 12:21AM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

Touch screen drivers must have existed in some form at some time for the Newspad. If we are very lucky Castle may have the module on a disk somewhere.

As my missing reply went on to say... I am also thining if the device goes out of production as long as you make sure you pick a device that was sold in sufficient numbers to ensure we continue to have a strong 2nd hand market and parts/accessories are available for a number of years. This would mean you could switch from selling the devices pre-installed with risc os to selling ROM upgrades (either a replacement plug-in rom board or a flash upgrade service).

By following the above route it would mean they can still continue to sell the service/product and continue to make money from the investment made to make the OS work on the device in the first place even if the device is no longer available new.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/01/07 10:05AM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

Sorry had post go missing and then accidently re-submitted my earlier post....

DOH!

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/01/07 3:05PM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

Yeah and I belive the PS3 has been seen in the wild booting Linux as well....

Not sure how good it works on the hardware, I guess linux would need a lot of tweeking to make use of any of the cut down extra processing units in the CPU...

I would be happy keeping with arm esspecially if we got the OS available on a laptop like device.... As has been said the Netbook pro is an option... There were also a load of other devices. I think Jornada 820 (& the 720 would be a good mini laptop), Nec Mobilepro (the 900 is a 400Mhz cpu version and has amoung other features a VGA out port), Compaq did a CE laptop I think running Arm and as has been said there are plenty of boxes shipped that run an ARM cpu that are tablet devices. Tablets tend to have a PS2 port and I have seen a lot with a light case that held a keyboard effectively making it a laptop like machine. Maybe not many desktop motherboards with PCI expansion but we have the A9, Ionix and it appears from the other article castle is looking at making an Ionix replacement.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/01/07 3:04PM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

Yeah and I belive the PS3 has been seen in the wild booting Linux as well....

Not sure how good it works on the hardware, I guess linux would need a lot of tweeking to make use of any of the cut down extra processing units in the CPU...

I would be happy keeping with arm esspecially if we got the OS available on a laptop like device.... As has been said the Netbook pro is an option... There were also a load of other devices. I think Jornada 820 (& the 720 would be a good mini laptop), Nec Mobilepro (the 900 is a 400Mhz cpu version and has amoung other features a VGA out port), Compaq did a CE laptop I think running Arm and as has been said there are plenty of boxes shipped that run an ARM cpu that are tablet devices. Tablets tend to have a PS2 port and I have seen a lot with a light case that held a keyboard effectively making it a laptop like machine. Maybe not many desktop motherboards with PCI expansion but we have the A9, Ionix and it appears from the other article castle is looking at making an Ionix replacement.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 23/01/07 12:19AM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

J C

Surely you are currently speculating that we are wrong???

:)

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 16/01/07 10:39AM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

I would call it more what we think will help RISC OS which calls for a certain amount of speculation....

But then if everyone kept quiet it would be just as bad... I am sure Castle have had thoughts along the lines of what we are thinking (wether they think it's a good thing or not & whether they are actually able to or not are totally diffrent things).

I just can't see any other way to actually bring some people back and grow the market although I am always very happy to be proved wrong. I also can't see anyone else voicing any other ideas that are aimed at directly encouraging people to try RISC OS.

Don't get me wrong I don't find this unhelpfull speculation. I am just putting some ideas in black and white for other people to digest and discuss and contribute to in a place where I assume a company like Castle would probablly see the discusion.

I see this as a slightly diffrent thing to just speculating for speculations sake.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 16/01/07 09:34AM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

IMHO it would be better to be 32bit or we loose any benefit for developers only having to think about 1 version of the OS on multiple hardware...

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 15/01/07 5:51PM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

I don't think either polas or I am proclaiming I want an RO5 upgrade for free.... I want RISC OS to continue living and not die a death...

The only think I am trying to say is it may be another small thing that brings back some users to have a look at RISC OS again and make it easier for programmers to develop software which may encourage them to actually develop again and update their software....

I am not willing to, so quickly, dismiss people simply because they didn't or havn't paid the money to get RISC OS 4. There are so many more logical and likely reasons to this than them being a cheap skate not willing to spend money (did they just stop using computers all together? No most will have jumped ship to another OS and spent good money on products on that platform. There are also lots of valid reasons for them to switch to alternatives due to the type of work they did, or were not fully convinced by RISC OS 4 and the prospects it had of new hardware and if/when it may be available in the future and they maybe didn't belive the new hardware announced would actually appear. Anyway, by the time the new hardware did appear they had already switched.

TBH your thinking seems to be that if these people didn't pay for RISC OS4 they are not going to be buy new hardware. I belive it's more like now they have invested in Mac or X86 boxes they are not willing to pay not a small ammount of money for RISC OS as they have spent the money on their current PC.

So we need to grow the market to survive, as I guess it won't survive with the current pot of people using RISC OS. One way to do this is entice people who use to use RISC OS back into the market. One way which I and a few others obviously think may help is to see the OS running on a RPC they have sitting in the loft (there must be 1000's) for a low cost and you may just let them see enough of RISC OS to make them look into it a little more and they may then consider buying hardware esspecially if Castle follow this up with new hardware to show their continued commitment. It will also allow for emulators to run the OS and allow people without hardware to give it a go. Would anyone have given linux a go if it wasn't free? I know for one I wouldn't have.

My last point. Surely the whole point of this ROOL is to release enough source to allow a free copy of the OS to be built or else there is actually no point to this at all and we are suggesting a way this can be used to the markets advantage and let people actually see and experience the OS - If people don't see it working, get a chance to use it where else will customers come from?

Rather than dismiss us quickly for suggesting this tell us why we are wrong and suggest alternative ways to get new customers into the market (yes if it gets used in embedded devices developers may buy castles machines but I doubt it will keep the desktop market alive on its own)...

Thanks

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 15/01/07 4:02PM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

I guess it shouldn't be the hardest thing in the world depending on what castle release. My thought here is along the lines of wasn't a lot of Risc OS 5 actually developed on a RISC PC? If that is correct there must already exist in some form the components etc. to run RO5 on RPC hardware....

Why would we want to do this? Well I guess; so there is only one branch of the OS making future software development easier (ie only one OS to be supported so it will only need the software tested on multiple hardware and not multiple harware and OS versions)...

What other benefits can I see? Well if RISC OS 5 can be run on RPC hardware and the most common podules made to work then there also must be a serious number of RPC's still out there running RISC OS 3 versions that have never been upgraded to 4... And if it's cheap enough ie. free or very cheap (only cost of ROM chips) then I guess there could be a number of RISC OS 3 RPC's upgraded to latest OS meaning development of software may be more attractive for some developers that have stopped doing updates or are really just maintaining current software and not developing it.

TBH I can't see any bad outcome to making available components to allow an RPC rom to be built. Esspecially if it can maybe get some old RPC's/old RISC OS users dusted off and back in use and if they like it these people are brought back to the market and may then look to buy newer and faster hardware.

Anyway Just my thoughts - look forward to see what comes from the latest chapter in the story and hope it is very successfull.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 15/1/07 1:56PM
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On 32bit Insignia released for free:

Yeah - I agree, seems to be missing from download page

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 10/1/07 5:29PM
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On New usergroup to launch at North-East roadshow:

If it was in Edinburgh or even somewhere half way between Glasgow & Edinburgh then I would have attended.

And yeah I can't get any more time off or a half day may have been a possibillity...

Anyway I am still glad they are holding this event and I hope it is successfull so they are tempted to hold another in the future...

Can I suggest if another is held please sort a venue and publisise times more than 2 weeks before the event which may allow people more time to plan for it and organise arround other commitments.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 16/10/06 5:36PM
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On Open sourcing RISC OS won't help says ROL:

Yeah... Well I emailed ROL 3 times now asking for a price for a RISC OS rom for my risc-PC.... Must have emailed the first time over 5 months ago now. (I tried sending from work and home in case it was somthing to do with my email address).

Do you know I havn't had one email in return...

So it doesn't look like customers for current products are a priority either...

Go figure but tbh if Open source works and it means someone can come up with Risc OS 5 version that will work on my RISC PC and in the future an A9 etc. I will be a very happy chappy.

TBH there is only so many times you try and throw your money at a company when you begin to wonder why they don't want to sell a product...

Cheers

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 03/10/06 5:47PM
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On New Acorn reveals PC laptop website:

What is more shocking is aparently Advertising Standards has said new Acorn has proved to their satifaction they have the rights to use the nut logo....

Correct me if I'm wrong but is that not still registered to an ex acorn person??? So how can new acorn have the rights to use it???

Cheers

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 2/10/06 12:39PM
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On ROS fan loses Acorn domain in dispute:

What is more worrying than this about the new acorn is apparently advertising standards agency has said the new acorn has proved they have the rights to use the nut logo....

Surely this can't be possible as we know the nut logo is still a registered trade mark owned by someone who was involved in acorn....

I still can't see how new acorn have managed to prove they have rights to the nut logo but apparently they can...

Maybe someone who knows the owner of the nut logo can contact him so he can defend his rights of ownership of the trade mark.

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 02/10/06 12:14AM
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On Sir Robin leaves ARM:

Cortex™-A8 processor which will revolutionize consumer and low-power mobile devices, enabling the delivery of higher levels of entertainment and innovation to end users. Launched at the second annual ARM® Developers' Conference, in Santa Clara, California, the ARM Cortex-A8 processor delivers up to 2,000 DMIPS making it ideal for demanding consumer products running multi-channel video, audio, and gaming applications. For next-generation mobile devices, the ARM Cortex-A8 processor delivers industry-leading performance and power efficiency while using less than 300 mW in 65nm technology. For the first time, low-cost, high-volume products will have access to desktop levels of performance using the Cortex-A8 processor.

I belive in the news release in 1995 they reckoned 1Ghz with 16 or 32k of L1 and configureable L2

Someone may be able to tell us what 2000 DMIPS means as it means little or nothing to me (however if it can give desktop levels of performance then surely itt would be a good choice for a desktop)

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 30/5/06 4:20PM
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On Castle rattles licensing sabre at 32bit RISC OS 4:

If everyone is so worried about it....

couldn't all the risc OS users get together (£10,000 was raised for a web browser) and buy risc os from castle.

I also seem to think a lot of possative comments about open sourcing Risc OS.... Well then that could be done....

Next thing you know it could pop up on a number of diffrent devices (linux started small and is now huge).

Anyway just my 2p worth....

John

 is a RISC OS Usermrmac on 24/04/06 6:20PM
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