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OMG! What will we do without RISC OS's premiere news outlet, and only one with an attention to detail?!?!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/10/09 4:26PM
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On In brief: Acorn World show this weekend:

The Iconbar. [link]

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/9/09 11:40PM
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On 'Threaded' Firefox for RISC OS build released to test:

This is, without doubt, the funniest and most naive thing you've said, oooh, today.

I say again for you to ignore because you don't want to hear it; offer your own time rather than criticising others for having more interesting things to do.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/9/09 1:53PM
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On 'Threaded' Firefox for RISC OS build released to test:

Hobbyists who can throw together a simple app with a GUI that makes you a sad panda does not make a programmer in this context.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/9/09 12:34PM
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On 'Threaded' Firefox for RISC OS build released to test:

It was a reference to flibble's RISC OS Browser Issue article.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/9/09 10:50PM
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On 'Threaded' Firefox for RISC OS build released to test:

Because only one person has the interest and/or time. Because there are only 4 of you who use RISC OS for browsing. Because the Firefox sources are turgid messes. Lots of reasons. Perhaps you should volunteer, rather than question it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/9/09 8:40PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

It depends; if it is the framebuffer/GPU that limits the resolution to 720 lines, then perhaps. If it is the acceleration functions and general grunt of the CPU that limits it to 720 lines, then no.

Decoding 1080p at 25fps requires not only unspeakably enormous amounts of data processing, it also requires unspeakably enormous amounts of memory bandwidth.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/9/09 9:03PM
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On RISCOScode.com webzine publishes autumn issue:

Amusing, even if it did take me 5 minutes to work out how to get to the next page and had to turn the brightness down on my monitor.

I have no idea what Richard Hallas is talking about his web site and NetSurf; it looks fine. Although I may need to beat him around the heat with his own nostril hairs for a) playing music at me without permission, and b) using fixed-position elements that destroy the performance of scrolling.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/9/09 1:12PM
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On Online RISC OS mag proposed:

It's exactly the kind of thing Paul would do >:) Anybody got a natural language analyser with a corpus of Paul's usenet postings to hand? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/09 11:34PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

There's nothing inherently bad about FileCore's performance. The problem is RISC OS's shocking IO layer and wastefulness of memory. And some firmware isn't going to help that.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/09 11:29PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

You'll get 20-30MB/sec out of a good one. Assuming a good high-performance USB stack and good IO layer.

Of which, the Iyonix has neither :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/09 11:27PM
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On Online RISC OS mag proposed:

By "Anonymous", we mean Paul Stewart, yes? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/09 11:21PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

Loose tea in a pot, of course.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/09 8:46PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

Depends. RJ45, USB, sound, and perhaps legacy ports, take up a lot of width.

There's another issue I just remembered, though: most ATX power supplies won't turn on ARM-based designs because they don't believe they're turned on they consume so little; the PSU can't stabilise. We get that a lot with the ATX S3C2410 board from Simtec.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/09 10:53AM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

"And ATX? No. The high integration of ARM SoCs means ATX somewhat belies the need for huge motherboards."

Micro-ATX and ITX boards still have a use; it means there's a bunch of off-the-shelf cases you can use.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/9/09 11:54PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

No, really; instruction timings, memory access speeds, contents of system control co-processor registers, core features, etc, all differ wildly. Sheeva's a marketing term, and their efforts to merge the multiple different core designs (such as XScale and Ferocean) under one roof.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/9/09 1:09AM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

Linux uses significantly different code on Kirkwood to other Sheevas; the word is simply a marketing term, and depending on the phase of moon means different things, which is why I said be careful :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/9/09 11:13PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

I do have to admit it; I make a damned fine cup of tea.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/9/09 4:57PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

Warning: The Sheevaplug does not contain a CPU with a Sheeva core. It's a Kirkwood.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/9/09 4:55PM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

Perhaps you'd like to fund your own perfect machine.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/9/09 10:13AM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

The Sheeva core is pretty fast, all told. It's difficult to measure their comparitive performance, because they have differing features (iWMMX2 vs NEON, etc).

Also, A8's VFP is astonishingly slow, compared even to ARM11.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/9/09 9:10AM
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On ARM-powered computer firm in RISC OS port talks :

It's a shame the last RISC OS computer to be bought to market hasn't been discontinued, and the Iyonix wasn't a dedicated RISC OS box, but other than that, he seems to know his stuff!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/8/09 8:51PM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

But the new icons! They're so lovely!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/8/09 8:20PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

If all I wanted was to annoy Aaron, there are way better ways than to try to expose him to logic. And that's ignoring his tactics of insults, toy-throwing and selective reading.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/8/09 2:44PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

At least I was honest without using insulting words, such as ones derived from "retard".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/8/09 9:13PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"It's just, in my opinion, plain impolite to publicly call someone a 'freetard' or insult their professional work."

So, what you're saying is that movie review sites should be banned? Why is it bad to say if a news outlet has an astonishing lack of attention to detail of fact?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/8/09 5:50PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Have you read anything either I or Aaron have said?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 11:57PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

"How's a compiler faster than an intrepreter?" Err. Because it generates native code? Or are you talking about the actual done-once compilation? All RISC OS development I've done for years and years has been on a Linux box. Compilation is essentially instant.

"How's fumbling around with bits in C more reliable than BASIC snippets?" Only amateurs or the disinterested fumble. Everybody else crafts something beautiful and elegant.

"How's lenghty C functions more readable than BASIC?" Casting, structs, type names in function prototypes, block comments, finer-grained variable scoping all make code much much much easier to read.

"How do you square readability as being opposite to code density?" Buh?

"C's best for serious programming." Which NetSurf is.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 8:03PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Not quite: being blindly loyal simply means you'll always choose the thing your loyalty lies with :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 7:59PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"Still we continue to use RISC OS, not out of blind loyalty, but out of choice."

Having the choice is not the same as not being blindly loyal; unless you have another reason for making that choice.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 4:18PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"So rjek – what you say – you are obviously passionate about RISC OS – so why not put that passion to a good use, oh sure it may not work out exactly the way you think, but it wont hurt to try"

I CHORTLE. More seriously, I believe in realism than self delusion. And I've contributed a lot over the years, and continue to do so, although in a lesser sense.

People advocating blind loyalty and "let's look at the bright side" are doing two things: doing more damage by deluding themselves and others, and wasting their time trying to find the bright side.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 2:29PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"The question was about ownership. Do you own an A9? No. Did you pay for an A9? No. I seem to recall that A6 provided an A9 for use during the Google summer of code sessions so that non RISC OS users could test code over VNC."

Perhaps you'd like to get your facts straight before pontificating. Hardly any of the above is true.

"Moving on, I very pleased to see you acknowledge that a virtual machine (in this case RPCEmu) counts the same as a real machine - I've made a note of this for future reference."

Again, your lack of ability to read is astonishing. Or perhaps you just like to read more into what is said in the hope it backs up your own pitiful excuse for a position. I have neither acknowledged this nor dismissed it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 2:28PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

So, what you're saying is that you think that a choice between hideous expense or grimey second-hand ancient kit isn't a barrier to entry. What, pray tell, is then? Given that users are dwindling, not growing.

The cough was simply because your nonsense that I quoted directly above it simply didn't warrant a reply; especially given you were ultracrepidating.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/8/09 2:25PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"To back this up, both articles quite clearly state that RISC OS 5 cannot use DVDs and that on RISC OS 4 you need Select or Adjust which is exactly what I wrote. So if anyone was wrong it was the press releases and publicity at the time."

Was CDROMFS not available then?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 11:59PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Well, to be a bit more honest: I have an A9, and something that looks very much like an A9. The later runs Linux, but given I use RPCemu too, I think that counts as "two RISC OS machines".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:26PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"Some of which might be true - but all of it totally irrelevant." Err, so the true bad things aren't bad?

"Hardware - there is plenty of hardware for sale on eBay and the market dictates the prices."

So you're recommending new users should buy non-warranted hardware?

"Confusion - out in the real world there is no confusion, because casual users just aren't interested."

Interested? No. Concerned? They should be.

"I should also point out that in reality there is no confusion anyway - some people who don't have access to the facts like to try and pretend that there is."

Except that new potential customers won't have these facts for which there is no evidence.

"But here is another question. Given that you don't use RISC OS or know a great deal about it"

Cough.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:22PM
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On Prototype Acorn Unix-powered A680 lands on eBay:

Sorry, DNS becoming common place. It really wasn't a standard feature everything should have in 87.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:19PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Two, at the moment.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:17PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Expensive hardware, an unreliable OS, expensive applications that are broadly incompatible with modern standards, no browser that'll do what they want, and confusion over the legal situation of it all anyway?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 4:05PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Why?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 3:03PM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

It doesn't use an SM500, either :) I strongly suspect that the ATI card has more acceleration features. I'm beginning to suspect it might have something to do with how the SM50x's and the ATI's memory and registers are mapped into podule space, and how things are shuffled around when there.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 1:40PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Perhaps. I've never understood why people would want two computers, one that can do everything, and another that can't.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 11:06AM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

If there are people who are considering /becoming/ RISC OS users, they need warning off.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 9:27AM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

You are possibly the only person who can answer this, but perhaps a big difference is the way they are bridged to the podule bus? The SM50x can be run as a PCI device, or a memory-mapped device; I imagine the logic in the CPLDs is much simpler.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/8/09 12:20AM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

The V-Pod doesn't use an SM501. Without having the source to either driver, we won't know. All I know is lots of people say the V-Pod is faster.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/8/09 6:57PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Fortunately, I'm grown up enough not to list the words in the Urban Dictionary that match you :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 9:16PM
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On Prototype Acorn Unix-powered A680 lands on eBay:

Yes. And also remember that its UNIX predates DNS. There's a patch available to RISC iX to add DNS support, but it's actually more hideous than doing all name resolution via YP and having a modern UNIX box do the DNS on its behalf.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 2:11PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

"It hardly seems worth correcting the odd typo for a product that's no longer being developed for RISC OS."

Woah, and now it becomes clear why your rag-on-a-CD was so hideously inaccurate and awful; you can't read.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 9:33AM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

If you feel the need to insult everybody who only spends money on things that are good value, then you've made an excellent business choice.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/09 9:32AM
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On Prototype Acorn Unix-powered A680 lands on eBay:

I'll see what I can do. It's basically similar to an A680 except in a large rack case (or hernia inducement cabinet, as it was refered to) with space for loads of SCSI discs.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/8/09 8:07PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Bit late now. Although if you like, you can go through all the issues and replace Netsurf with NetSurf.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/8/09 8:05PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

Why do you doubt that? Do you seriously think all your subscribers cherished each and every copy, rather than passing them on after they were done with?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/8/09 8:05PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

You've seen the size of our banner, yeah? :) Forget it. It's not happening. (At least, not anybody from NetSurf north of Watford.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/8/09 9:18AM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

I'm not carrying the equipment we normally bring (two LCDs, two RISC OS boxes, two laptops, our banner, gang leads, ethernet switch, lunch, etc etc etc) on a train.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 9:18PM
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On Prototype Acorn Unix-powered A680 lands on eBay:

Way more than 6 left, I bet. I know at least three people with A680s! (One of them has the M4.) Surely the "ARM port of BSD 4.3" is RISC iX? And I don't recall the UNIX kernel ever being in ROM; even the M4 which was purpose-built to run RISC iX boots RISC OS from ROM, and you then boot the UNIX kernel with !RISCiXFS.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 9:15PM
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On RISCWorld mag back-issues reprinted online for free:

The rants were the only bit I ever read.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 4:00PM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

And I understand the V-Pod trounces the VF if you're using RO6. I assume the bottleneck with the VF is sending commands and data over the podule bus, so I doubt putting a card in with faster 2D operations is going to give you a noticeable benefit.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 11:46AM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

That dictionary isn't very good. Don't you think something can still be expensive, and yet within your budget and thus afforded?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 11:43AM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

Perhaps I was confused by the article saying the driver software was made freely available, and the €30 card was being sold for €99...

Of course, this dual-DVI enabled ViewFinder is way more expensive than a V-Pod, once you include the cost of the VF and the card you have to throw away to fit the new one :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 11:42AM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

Affordable does not equal not expensive or over-priced. And I was under the impression that RISC OS 6 still lacked any support for Radeon-based ViewFinders.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/8/09 12:00AM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

"I think I would actually suggest BASIC is a better environment to learn WIMP programming than C as it's more dense." I favour static type checking, speed, reliability, and readability over density of code. Any day.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/8/09 8:37PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

Throwing your money away with no promises or guarantees is pretty naive, if you ask me.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/8/09 5:32PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

Sorry, but we have real lives outside RISC OS and NetSurf. And it's more than one day for the developers who don't live in the south of England; I remember driving down from Manchester to the Guildford show one morning to arrive at 8am, and driving back the same day. Nasty.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/8/09 11:10AM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

People who put money up front for free software development almost always get what they deserve: nothing. A bounty scheme is far better.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/8/09 11:10PM
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On Dual-head DVI ViewFinder graphics card announced:

€99 is a bit steep for such an ancient card, but I suppose he may have had to jump through some hoops to source such archaic technology. Is it known what card is being used, so people have the option of purchasing elsewhere?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/8/09 7:15PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

Any number. Search Amazon, Google, and your local night school.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/8/09 6:56PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

I'm not sure any of us can make the time to attend.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/8/09 6:56PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

I've lost count of the number of people who say "I'd love to help, but I'm only a BBC Basic programmer" :) Well, how about helping by learning C, and then helping directly? :)

And again, money doesn't help a jot if there's nobody to give it to. Most of the money we collect at shows gets gobbled up by travel and stand expenses. And £1000 might get you a month's work. It's more than that.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/8/09 3:36PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

NetSurf is (partially) under the GPL. Compulsory pricing will not help more than the donations for release CDs we already ask for.

If people want to pay somebody to develop the RISC OS front end, then that's their interest; I don't think the project as a whole would want to. However, finding a developer who would work for cash is very almost as difficult as finding one who will work for free.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/8/09 5:03PM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

It is impossible to write a web browser where this sort of location activity is easy, I feel. There are just too many inputs to the layout from 15 years of committee cruft. greping NetSurf's sources for keywords is surprisingly effective, though. The HTML and CSS parsers are easily navigable, however.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/8/09 11:01AM
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On NetSurf on RISC OS faces axe:

JavaScript is core functionality. It has absolutely nothing to do with the front end. And yes, we have. You can see the inroads we've been making; a brand new, up-to-date CSS parser has just been merged into test versions.

We're not asking for a RISC OS "core" programmer, because that's meaningless. The core is entirely OS-agnostic. Moving features from the already well-developed RISC OS front end to the core means that they can be debugged (RISC OS's debugging tools are shockingly poor by comparison to those available elsewhere) and so other front ends can take advantage of them without having to reimplement them themselves. This should lead to a better NetSurf all round; for RISC OS and other platforms. Unfortunately, nobody's touched the RISC OS front end in over two years, which is why we're asking for somebody to.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/8/09 9:33PM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

"But if you can dual boot with the supplied OS easily, you have lost nothing."

Except convenience.

"Remember the iPhone has no java or flash."

And that's considered one of its many big flaws.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/8/09 9:39PM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

An economy's worth is much less than its turnover. But otherwise, yes; I agree with your post.

Anybody who thinks that designing a new RISC OS box costs two hundred thousand pounds really aught to shop around a bit more, though; they're being ripped off.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/8/09 12:16AM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

It doesn't matter how much money you throw at/waste with it. The knowledge and skill has all but left for greener pastures. The boat has sailed.

I'd still love to know where this "couple of hundread thousand pounds" came from for the Iyonix II. The number is just... fantastical.

Not making a living out of RISC OS? That's because there's no money, and the last remaining users throwing their savings at developers will not help the long-term problem. You might get a new product. And then you'll be back where you started. Why bother at all? RISC OS will never, ever become mainstream again.

I don't know what the size of the RISC OS economy is, but I would be truly astonished if it were anywhere near £100,000. Even including some dealers' fabulous prices.

Thus, money is not the answer. As you yourself say, RISC OS is a hobby platform. You don't keep trying to keep it alive by poking it with sticks of cash, you keep it alive by getting people interested again. How you get people interested again is the problem.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/7/09 1:30PM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

The issue is not money. The issue is time and willpower. Many developers have long since moved onto other platforms, and they're quite content there.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/7/09 9:12PM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

No, need and saleability come first.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/7/09 12:18AM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

If you just open the serial port with minicom or similar, gerfingerpoken messages are interleaved with the stylus ones; they're just different bytes. I've got some docs I wrote when trying to reverse-engineer the protocol some time ago. Perhaps I should get those back out and finish them off.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/7/09 12:53AM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

Wacom finger and stylus panels are done entirely though RS232 (my laptop has one), but you're right, they're not cheap.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/7/09 10:54PM
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On RISC OS 5 port hopes for netbook now in production:

Is this touchbook's touchscreen capacitive, or resistive? Resistive ones are easy to drive; you just have two ADCs, an IRQ line, and do a bit of calibration. Capacitive ones are somewhat more complex to drive as they require huge amounts of mathematical voodoo, which while often is integrated into a controller chip, there is no standard for talking to them; every vendor's is different, and even with vendors there can be huge differences in how they are attached and what protocol they speak. There is also the possibility of additional problems; many are SPI-attached, and I don't believe RISC OS has any SPI support at all at the moment.

Basically; if it's the old-fashioned resistive multi-film type touchscreen, then they're so easy it's hardly worth adapting an existing one. If it's the modern multi-touch capacitive one, it might need quite a bit of work.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/7/09 4:57PM
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On Richard Brown takes over day-to-day running of ISP Orpheus:

I'm sure everybody who needs to know (family, close friends) does.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/6/09 7:36PM
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On Richard Brown takes over day-to-day running of ISP Orpheus:

Orpheus is different; it has enough customers to make it worthwhile running. Oregano 3's problems were that there simply isn't the marker for a hundred quid web browser anymore.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/6/09 7:35PM
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On Richard Brown takes over day-to-day running of ISP Orpheus:

Richard has been a long standing friend of Paul, general nice bloke, and is an ideal man for the job. I wish him the best success. Any help I can provide is still available.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/6/09 12:13AM
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On New London RISC OS show to be held in October:

It's called copy and paste, or looking at the thread :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/6/09 9:18PM
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"This developer isn't run of the mill and is seriously up on CE and WM."

Then I can only assume you misunderstood what he said. I suppose it's got a lot in common, if you think being called Windows, naming storage devices with letters, and using FAT enough.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/6/09 5:01PM
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Windows CE is based neither on Windows 95 or Windows NT. It is a complete reimplementation of a "Windows flavoured" OS. It has many differences. From the API point of view, it possibly has more in common with Windows 98, but it is a very very different OS. At least, it was when I last used it (2 or 3 years ago). Windows CE can easily fit into the smallest sensibly-priced Flash.

Perhaps you misunderstood what this "CD software hardware dev" said, are reading more into what he said, or perhaps he was just wrong.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/6/09 3:58PM
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Windows CE is about 20 years ahead of RISC OS in terms of operating system technology. Windows CE can fit into truely tiny spaces, much like RISC OS can. My experience of the Psion Netbook Pro (400MHz XScale) running Linux, Firefox was still painful; but Firefox itself is a lot faster these days than it used to be.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/6/09 1:31PM
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"If the tegra can handle desktop firefox 3.5 with full flash support and 4 tabs (due to the 512Mb ram) and the speed of the browsing looked excellent (would say faster then most atom machines I have seen) then it bodes well for the ability of the new ARM hardware."

When combined with an efficient OS that it was designed for, perhaps.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/6/09 11:31AM
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Under a UNIX on ARM, one simply builds Firefox in the usual way; as they might on x86. There's no ARM-specific development here.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/6/09 10:37AM
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On Five tips for ROL over the next five years:

No, it's not already the situation. The APIs that many of the modules use to talk to each other have diverged. What people manage to run from ROOL on ROL is by luck, rather than design.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/6/09 4:19PM
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"Also, such low-level stuff as this really can't be tested for and the used accordingly. For a start you'd still need to write the fall-back code anyway, so all you get is twice the code base to maintain. I'd also suggest that a simple look around will show that RISC OS Ltd. has no idea how to stop the OS stagnating and dying."

There's no point getting technical here; it's clear that Paul's either unable or unwilling to understand the issue.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/6/09 6:53AM
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On Five tips for ROL over the next five years:

"Rjek. If every new feature was made freely available to all previous users, then where exactly is the income to pay for the development to come from? If users want the latest features then they need to have the latest version of the OS. Everyone gains in that scenario. If developers don't use new OS features because not enough people will be able to use it, then no new software will ever be developed."

Are you being intentionally obtuse? I've explictly said that user-facing features shouldn't be; only APIs should be if you actually expect software to use it.

Try reading for a change, rather being deliberately argumentative to make you look powerful to the last few remaining people who think you're relevant.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/6/09 6:52AM
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There are modern Sheeva and Ferocean SoCs that offer 1GHz single or dual-core with twin Gigabit, twin SATA, bags of PCIe, DDR2 and 3, etc. I'm assuming they've fixed the memory access problems wince Ferocean, given it's almost entirely a ground-up redesign.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/6/09 6:50AM
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Not only the developers, but all users, too. Certainly at least back to supporting 4.02 and CTL's OS offerings. Just letting the developers use it isn't enough; why bother writing the code that only a proportion can make use of?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/6/09 9:25PM
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Historically, Qualcomm have been very secretive. All the Qualcomm-based Android mobiles (such as the HTC G1) come with a big fat bundle of closed-source kernel modules to make them work; there is little public-facing documentation :(

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/6/09 2:36PM
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IFR is an API. Don't expect more applications to use it unless everybody can. I've already said I wouldn't expect user-facing features to be made available (such as the filer "improvements", applications, the firewall, and err, whatever else there might be), however, APIs need to be widespread to be used.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/6/09 1:36PM
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Release some of the new APIs for free (not user-facing features) can only improve the situation. Currently, hardly any developers use them because it limits their software to an even tinier market. So this money's wasted, unless there's reason for developers to use them. And the only way that's going to happen is to make them more widely available.

Releasing those APIs for other systems makes the money the subscribers have spent with you actually do something, rather than nothing, and so it's better value for them.

"It seems that lots of you who are pushing for RISC OS to be freely available are those who have never paid for anything from RISCOS Ltd. Do you never pay for software, or is it just RISC OS that you don't want to pay for?"

I pay for lots of software; when it's worthwhile. RISCOS Ltd.'s product is expensive, and doesn't run on any hardware I own.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/6/09 1:17PM
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On Five tips for ROL over the next five years:

People have begged ROL to release certain APIs and improvements to make them available for all (and thus more widely used) on numerous attempts. I think the only thing that ever happened was their SharedCLibrary. Acorn used to routinely do this sort of thing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/6/09 12:02AM
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On New London RISC OS show to be held in October:

I know a lot of mancunians who would make that joke; in fact I heard a similar one just yesterday. It's bizarre; perhaps they feel persecuted where there is no persecution.

(Speaking as a southerner living in Manchester.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/6/09 12:22PM
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There's a name for this process. It's called moving to another system and running an emulator for all the ancient stuff you refuse to abandon.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/5/09 6:37PM
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"I wasn’t trying to teach you to suck eggs, I was pointing out that “fork” and “copy on write” are not synonymous"

Given I'd already alluded to that, I can only imagine you didn't read what I wrote; so I'll give up now. The rest of your post is also maddeningly insane and confused.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/5/09 4:50PM
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No. You have multiple threads in your application. One of those threads is responsible for calling Wimp_Poll. It then wakes up or spawns new threads to deal with the new events. The kernel has nothing to do with it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/5/09 9:35AM
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I'm beginning to boggle at you. fork() requires advanced memory management and multitasking abilities. RISC OS doesn't have these. Adding them would be as much work as reworking the dozens of places RISC OS keeps state.

I can't think of a compiler anybody actually uses on ARM that doesn't compile switch statements to jump tables where possible.

I can't think of an OS anybody actually uses that has fork that doesn't do it copy-on-write. (And then you go and tell me what copy-on-write is. Boggle.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/5/09 9:34AM
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"RO is presently a N:1 multi-threaded system, that is all thread are mapped onto a sinlge processor, and the application itself schedules those threads. In most cases, it does so in response to reasoncodes retruned by Wimp_Poll."

Well, there are no threads at all.

"I wonder if the pre-filter mechanism could be used (by the kernel) to prevent blocking. Simtec's Hydra was introduced before prefiltering, I think."

Possibly, but the work is best done centrally. Hydra only worked in RiscPCs, which meant they must have been running RISC OS 3.5 at minimum. Filters were introduced in 3.1 IIRC (and are noticeably absent from 3.0)

"Killermike's suggestion is called "forking" in which the OS creates a new instance of itself and starts a process (application) within that instance, thus giving each application its own OS context."

Forking almost always refers to a process, not the OS. ie, the call fork() makes a copy of the process (copy on write in all modern operating systems), and returns one value to on process, and the PID of the newly spawned process to the other.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/5/09 12:15AM
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"A thread can only be run on one core at one time. For an application to run on more than one core simultaneously, it must be multi threaded."

"Killermike has suggested giving each application its own OS context, and I have pointed out that this is a technique used in Unix systems (back in the mainframe era). It would require some rewriting of the OS and extension modules, but would it really need to be so extensive?"

Hugely extensive. I tried to make a list of contexts in RISC OS that would need to be replicated, but gave up when I reached 20.

Untrue; it may be multiprocess, or the compiler may do magic to make safe parts execute on different hyperthreads or cores.

"Rjek has rightly pointed out that a switch statement with a long list of case statements is less efficient than a jump table for handling the Wimp_Poll reason codes, but I have already agreed that any saving would be insignificant in itself."

No, myself and imj both said that a switch statement gets /compiled/ to a jump table anyway. (In ARM code, a jump table is a single instruction followed by a list of branch instructions).

"The Wimp_Poll idea was to allow applications to respond to more than one event at a time, in a multiprocessor system"

Other systems simply have a job dispatch thread; it would listen to Wimp_Poll, and dispatch jobs to handler threads. This is both simple, and good enough.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/5/09 12:12AM
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Progress! >:)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/5/09 1:51PM
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Suggesting changing the poll interface to remove one jump of overhead (given I'd have thought that most of these Wimp_Poll event code dispatch routines get compiled to a jump table) seems, to me, entirely insane.

All you're doing is moving where the jump table is; not eliminating it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/5/09 9:50AM
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"As I said, I cannot comment on the functionality of any RO browser, but Netsurf is a browser that is developed on RO and ported to other OS, such as Linux. Google have asked the authors to provide mentorship during their "summer of code"."

I can comment; I'm one of the mentors :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/5/09 12:57PM
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Linux's existance is because somebody had a personal itch, and it's grown to be something that is specifically free and well-engineered. It's difficult to compete with that on technological grounds.

I'm not sure what you mean by Google disagreeing with me; we have Java 1 system that is so ancient nothing works with it, an equally ancient Shockwave player, and an unusuably slow Gnash port, which doesn't support most Flash applets anyway.

As for how things could be achieved, the simple way of implementing threads which everybody else already uses and has been tried and tested seems to be the best choice; although it'd be a waste of effort anyway, regardless of how it's done.

MIPS has "hyperthreading", after a fashion. If it actually becomes a feature customers want, ARM may add it. But you can usually just throw another ARM code in the same package for a similar cost in complexity.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/5/09 10:24AM
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Why have two computers, when you can get along quite happily with one? Personally, I much prefer the UNIX UI to the RISC OS one; but I'm not just limiting myself the the GUI.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/5/09 10:21AM
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"The only way around that is to increase the user base, for example by porting it to new, cheap, hardware."

And why would people want to move to an OS with no Javascript, Flash and Java-enabled browser worth using, with no video media playing, and a host of other things?

As for what would be required for hardware multithreading, a whole bunch of hardware would be required. So what? I don't see why you keep going on about that.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/5/09 6:52AM
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Who said DH is a victim in this, rather than being celebrated as a heroic celebrity? Running jokes have to be running.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 11:55PM
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I've not heard the term "block multithreading" before. Under UNIX and similar systems, you only really have one extra entry point (the signal handler); everything is done via system calls blocking and letting another process run until the process can be unblocked (data loaded from disc, data arriving on a socket, a file changing, etc). There's no reason the API for RISC OS couldn't be adapted to do the same; it's just loads of software won't work because they expect to be the only thing running between Wimp_Poll calls. Now, extending the Wimp_Poll API is one solution, but old software will still have to block the entire system; and given most software is old, and the likelyhood of new software being written is astonishingly tiny, there's little point.

As for the ARM not containing multithreading hardware; it doesn't contain anything like Hyperthreading. But it has everything that any other OS can use quite effectively; a high-resolution timer, an atomic swap instruction (which was introduced for the multithreading explicitly), different modes for kernel and user land, and virtual memory. You don't need anything more.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 11:42PM
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"But I expect PMT to increase the number of context switches and that can only slow the system down. We may be talking at cross purposes. PMT is usually associated with block multi-threading, and that could certainly reduce bottlenecks."

Yes, but unless a task is using 100% of the CPU, it won't get process-switched unless it yeilds. And you want to force it to in that situation anyway, for precisely the reasons you describe. So there really aren't that many unwanted context switches.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 7:47PM
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The problem here is that to make good use of some of the 32 bit features brings problems for 26 bit users, so there's a bit of a boot-strapping issue, cause by people being stuck in the past. Although if they weren't, I don't suppose we'd be here at all :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 3:11PM
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Your post nicely sums up (to me) what I've been saying for a while now; there's no money in RISC OS. Let's just amuse ourselves and not delude ourselves with it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 12:38PM
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Who said they'd want to upgrade? I'm ignoring RiscPCs, as should everybody else. They're painfully ancient. And all current emulation is targeted on RiscPC-like hardware due to its simplicity, where the podule problem doesn't exist.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 12:32PM
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That's because you're ignoring everything I've said in order to have an argument, no doubt. As for the old software argument; I've said it before, but not in this thread, but I'll say it again; the kind of people using two-decade old software when more modern alternatives are availble are so stuck in their ways, you can't expect them to upgrade anyway :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 9:49AM
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My buh was for suggesting it was inefficient in single-user systems. Personally, I like the fact I can still web browse without lumpy interruptions while a CD burns or rips, or when my mail client checks for new mail or usenet posts, or when I'm encoding my recent holiday videos, rasterising a printout in the background, updating the search database in the background, etc etc etc.

I'll think you'll notice that 1GHz ARM-compatible systems are already available, and more are on the horizon. Additionally, Linux on ARM systems, even ones such as the A9 Home, have much greater throughput than RISC OS does; precisely because of its PMT and better memory management.

There's no point porting the OS and rewriting the API at all, you're right. The amount of old software that would break in the name of progress will massively outweigh the new software that might be written, and most people would stick with their ancient crumbling RiscPCs anyway.

(Which is precisely the situation that let me to use other systems for my day-to-day computing.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/5/09 9:47AM
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"Would it not be feasible for Select development to be split, say six months on operating system work and six months on applications for the platform - such as finishing off the port of Firefox, porting the Gnash Flash player or an open source Java engine?"

Unfortunately, all of these need huge OS improvements to be truly usable. If RISCOS Ltd. wanted to make a contribution to the application world, I look forward to their efforts improving NetSurf, ArtWorks and Impression.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 11:48PM
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Read the discussion. And in any case, any people actually using RiscPCs rather than more modern, 32 bit systems or emulated systems really need to find a new bit of hardware.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 11:46PM
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"Keep some things cooperative (opening/moving windows, RO-style inter-process messaging, user input), but allow multiple processes to draw their windows simultaneously and use other IPC mechanisms for things like sound. In that way, you can have your video playing uninterrupted on one window while another task is rendering a draw image."

How do you plan to do this, without introducing a new Poll call?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 11:45PM
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"PMT is inefficient on a single user system"

Buh. What an old-fashioned attitude.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 8:29PM
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What makes you think it'll be slower? There are many technical things you can do when in 32 bit mode that aren't feasible in 26 bit mode. Such as shared libraries, which lead to better memory usage and better cache usage, and thus faster. Future processor upgrades for the RiscPC are possible, but let's face it, it'd be silly. And single source *is* an advantage to the user; it's less likely to get screwed up.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 5:46PM
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Software that makes broken assumptions is broken anywhere :) Often, installing as Administrator solves many; but I've had a handful of 16 bit Windows software working a treat under Vista Business.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 3:00PM
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Look further back in the thread. There are performance, memory efficiency advantages, possibilities of future CPU upgrades, and a single source base to maintain.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 9:52AM
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Giving each process its own copy of RISC OS; I've suggested this before. It's likely to work, but it has its own problems. (Working out shared memory, module sharing, etc etct)

Using a module to provide access to additional CPUs: This has already been done with the Simtec Hydra and the threading module it came with. Nobody seemed interested.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 9:50AM
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Doubtful. But a 32 bit OS brings as many advantages as it does disadvantages. Many podules are fundamentally very simple devices that new drivers can be developed for, or old drivers ported should their firmware authors be contactable.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/5/09 12:12AM
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Ubuntu's install is comparable to the size of a Windows XP install. Except it comes with a whole office suite, and a load of other apps.

As for the driver situation under RISC OS; yes. It's a complete mess.

For rewriting, loads of Arthur stuff needed a hell of a lot of reworking in their GUI code to be made RISC OS 2 apps. I'm just saying that a similar amount, if not more, would be needed again to move them onto a PMT system.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/5/09 6:51PM
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"How much Win 3.1 / 95 stuff still works under 7?"

Many Windows 2 apps still work under Vista, so I wouldn't be surprised if many ancient stuff still works under Windows 7; one of the reasons for Windows's hideous size is its backwards compatibility. They'd never sell it into businesses if it didn't have the ability to run old crusty software.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/5/09 12:13PM
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Writing support for hardware is usually a good first step to getting an OS to work on it. Given how simple PCI is really, adding it would open up a lot more SoCs for RISCOS Ltd. not to port to.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 8:27PM
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I know one of the chaps who wrote First Word Plus for the Archimedes. He'd moved onto other things even by then, so wasn't available for doing the rewrite. I also remember it being so dreadful it hurt :)

RISC OS 2 (and even RISC OS 6) can run most Arthur GUI apps still, but only single-tasking. druck's right; to take advantage of any PMT, everything would need rewriting, just like everything did to take advantage of CMT in RISC OS 2.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 8:26PM
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"PCI Support - There is no system that RISC OS 6 runs on that required this, therefore why include it?"

Because, err, without it, it won't run on systems that require it?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 5:32PM
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That question is not relevant to the discussion. The discussion was about how hard it is to port your OS; and there is good evidence to suggest that RO5 is easier, simply because its historically managed to run on more platforms, even excluding the platforms that Pace ran it on before selling their rights to Castle.

This conversation is now serving no purpose. Some might say it is because all it appears you're trying to do is protect your salary, and not further the development of our favourite hobbyist OS.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 12:28PM
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Centiseconds. Ie, 100th of a second.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 12:23PM
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In the OS? Only in the same way a book reviewer is involved in writing it. The hardware, however, is a different matter completely.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 12:19AM
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There's something to be said for getting it right in the first place :) And in Windows's case; slowly and incrementally introducing new APIs and porting it to all the sensible hardware, so software actually uses it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/5/09 12:18AM
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As has been discussed before, distributing RISC OS and HAL separately is a non-starter. Additionally, the ROL and CTL branches have likely diverged so much, it would be next to impossible to get them to interwork, even if you could get the companies to co-operate on making an OS people hold dear survive, rather than trying to make money out of it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 5:47PM
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"That's because IMO, none of the feautures of RISC OS 6 are either obscure or ill-thought-out."

And how many of the ones I listed do you use, or know of anybody who uses them?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 5:44PM
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"If you are trying to make out that Risc PC owners paid for the A9Home to be developed, then that is untrue." I am not. I know who paid for the A9Home to be developed.

I gave a list of features I believed most users would never use, or even understand. Of course, you can name a handful of ones that are used, that's easy. Nobody's piped up and said "I use this obscure, ill-thought-out feature!", and they're hardly ever mentioned on usenet, the usergroups I attend, on Drobe, Iconbar, IRC, etc etc etc. Or do you seriously think people often use Sun Raster import? How many people, do you think, would rather effort spent on features like Unicode font support than import support for an ancient and esoteric image format?

I say "citation needed" because you make outlandish claims and refuse to detail why you believe them to be true. At least I give examples for which nobody tends to argue with. And when you /do/ link to another page, most of them time it says the opposite. Just like tlsa said, although you continue to ignore him.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 4:21PM
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Seen it as a product? It's one thing to demonstrate a proof-of-concept prototype, it's quite another to have it as an actual working selling product. Which RISC OS 6 hasn't managed yet, has it?

And the Dual Head A9Home was running with /parts/ of RISC OS 6. The parts that actually worked. Closer examination of the construction of its ROM image was quite revealing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 3:56PM
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Firstly, we can assume that the RiscPC-class machines are essentially one and the same, beyond a few minor tweaks for the CPU. That means ARM 6, ARM710, StrongARM, ARM7500, VRPC, and RPCemu are all the same thing. There has been no version of RISC OS 6 released for ARM9 machines, and only an unstable beta for RISC OS 4. So that's one machine, perhaps one and a half if you include the A9. RISC OS 5, however, runs on the Iyonix (with graphics card support, like you claim for the VPod), RiscPC-class hardware (half a point), the BeagleBoard (half a point), and all of the different hardware Pace used it on (we'll call this zero points, but pointing to its working). It'd also most likely work under VRPC too if it hadn't been intentionally nobbled to only accept ROL ROM images. That's two verses ROL's 1.5, and that's being mean to the RO5 side.

RO5 *already* supports different video cards. It *already* runs on more architectures. And you've completely ignored tlsa's point that nothing you link to proves, or even agrees with anything you're saying at all.

You seem to be fundamentally confused between the CPU and the system, as well as what a HAL is. The RiscPC is one system, which a choice of (very similar) CPUs. And I don't doubt that a graphics driver for the VPod couldn't be written for RO5 pretty trivially; the SM501's quite easy to drive simplistically.

C-. Must try harder to understand the issues.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 3:54PM
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We're talking about ease of portability. And ROOL's version already runs on more platforms that ROL's efforts. Here is where the story ends. I've witnessed Pace's RISC OS running on several different pieces of hardware over the years.

Nothing you've cited proves your ownership argument at all, as tlsa touched on a moment ago.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 1:32PM
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This is what happens when you're actually directly involved.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 1:11AM
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The reason RISC OS has enjoyed reasonably good compatibility between old software and new is that the OS hasn't moved substantially in the past 15 years. If I were feeling really uncharitable, I'd say 20.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 12:51AM
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"RISC OS is actually far better abstracted than RISC OS 5." Citation needed. RISC OS 6 has ripped out loads of functionality from the kernel into modules, but most actual hardware access has always been in modules, and what wasn't is mostly done through the HAL in RISC OS 5. What remains in the kernel is largely conditionally assembled; which given the source is available is not a problem. Ripping stuff out into modules does not make a portable OS.

"Perhaps you could list the manufacturers who have produced products using RISC OS 5?" How about the countless hardware platforms that Pace used it on? RISC OS 5 already runs on more hardware platforms /now/ than RISC OS 6 does.

"In comparison the ARM NetBooks offer the best option for the future, and there is no reason why we can't produce RISC OS Six for one or more of them" Except for your previous arguement about how you don't want to port to something without guarantee of supply.

"I should of course point out that no-one other than RISCOS Ltd can licence RISC OS for use on Desktop Computers. (see the Castle FAQ at [link])" Again, citation needed. Additionally, which element of the FAQ are you refering to?

"The costs will be very reasonable, and will not have any commercial impact on the price of a product." If that is the case, I'm sure you'll be happy to publish this information.

"You will notice also from the above Castle Press Release that they admitted that RISC OS 5 included most of the RISC OS 4 enhancements, when RISC OS 5 was released." And how many of them were ROL's doing? I note that the most obvious of them, the 3D window hack, is missing.

"Our Head Licence gave us the copyright to all derivative works created from the sources we received from Element 14, for use in our market after a 4 year period." The legal standing of this statement is simply astonishingly wobbly, as well as vague as can be. Firstly, it refers to the sources you received, not the sources Castle received. Past that, you simply can't assign copyright automatically like that.

"If everyone expects RISC OS to be given away for free then who is going to make any money to support new development? How will RComp or CJE or Martin Wuerthner make any money to develop new products, if everyone expects everything RISC OS related to be given away for free?" I'm sure the free software movement has passed you by; even OSes that aren't themselves open and free have thriving application businesses, both open or otherwise.

"We put a tagline on our new web site to say that it was best viewed by Netsurf, as a clear sign of support for people who may not have heard of Netsurf to give it a try, but you just complained." That's because it wasn't best viewed in NetSurf; it was dreadful HTML exported by a Windows application that made assumptions that are mostly untrue under RISC OS.

"You don't include any links to RISCOS Ltd on the Netsurf pages, as if to try and make out that we don't exist. How about practising a bit of all round promotion for RISC OS, rather than just links to Drobe, ROOL and riscos.info on the Netsurf browser default page?" Because your website has no content of interest, and most users wouldn't feel the need to visit it. We provide links to several RISC OS-related enterprises; mostly those who directly support and sponsor us. Perhaps you'd like to make a contribution.

In all, this post's the funniest thing I've read all week; circular arguments, vague assertions, and outright self-contradiction. Well done, Paul. I'm sure even fewer people now take you seriously.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/5/09 12:47AM
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NetBSD is cute. Linux is useful, and has vastly better support of extant hardware. Where NetBSD wins is that it's easier to port to /new/ hardware, but Linux has such weight behind it users don't notice.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 11:59PM
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No, the issue is that so many developers assume (rightly, at the time) that the CSD won't change unless you call Wimp_Poll. And the same applies to dozens of other facets of RISC OS. I bet bags of applications rely on things like the CSD, sprite context, currently open Templates file, and lack of file system races. And they'll all break.

As the the file system, you don't need non-blocking APIs to make a performance improvement, you just need the ability to run a different program while another is waiting on disc.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 11:58PM
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I don't doubt that making all these shared contexts swapped in and out along with the rest of what the WIMP does will improve maters; but it's a hell of a lot of work, and in some cases requires API redesigns, meaning existing apps can't make use of the new functionality. Additionally, I bet there are a fair few apps out there that /rely/ on the shared contexts.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 11:53PM
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Your suggestion doesn't solve all the other state issues; WIMP messaging is just one. RISC OS is not designed to have more than one thing talking to the OS at once; too much of the API is implicitly stateful. If FileCore were adapted so it could yield rather than block, then when one process blocks on disc, others can use the CPU. This gives you a big performance increase over CMT, multi-processor or not.

The CSD is a global, shared among all processes. Much like environment variables, the sprite context, the VDU pipeline, and dozens of other things.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 7:12PM
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WIMP2 worked by forcing processes to call Wimp_Poll, and then collecting events for them, and passing them to them one by one. It caused many problems, and didn't solve any relating to having multiple CPUs; only one program was running at a time, so it didn't matter.

The problem is that so many parts of RISC OS only have one "state"; everything from which directory you're in to how you're printing. Normally, this isn't a problem because the author of the software is careful about when he returns control to the OS for another application to get its turn. However, with PMT and SMP, there's no way to know when it is safe to swap task. What needs to be done is for every task to get its own state; including current directory and perhaps 50 other things.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 1:16PM
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Martin, the changes needed to make RISC OS a modern system are so massive, it's entirely legitimate for it to break software. Just by including the source in them doesn't mean that it'll get updated to use new APIs, although it does mean there's hope if the author has no interest.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 10:36AM
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Simtec has already offered SMP systems for RISC OS with a module and API to allow applications to have multiple threads. The problem is that so much of RISC OS itself and its API assumes a single processor, so any interaction with the OS stalls all of the CPUs. So you get to do a huge source upheaval which is more involved than the 32 bit change, and then get to choose between good performance or compatibility with existing applications.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/5/09 9:48AM
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Your position should be that of "on the fence", given neither company has produced any evidence of their point of view; what they have produced is either laughably circular or vague in the extreme. So the solution is to just shut up and ignore the issue until one of them sues the other, or one goes bankrupt.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/5/09 8:08PM
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It's not as simple as that. Multi-core SoCs with ARM9s and ARM11s have been available for some time. My point is that the OMAP isn't a CPU, it's a System on-a Chip. And porting between models of SoCs can be complicated regardless of if you already support the CPU.

How will RISC OS work with multiple CPUs? Not at all well.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/5/09 8:06PM
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The CPU isn't all that different. However, the CPU is only a small part of what's in an SoC; and that stuff can change greatly at the manufacturer's whim. (For example, how to boot it, communicate to sound, USB, video, etc etc etc.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/5/09 6:56PM
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What would the advantage be over using one off-the-shelf?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/09 9:03PM
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As well as voting privileges for anybody with no sense of humour.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/09 6:19PM
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I'm not into that sort of thing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/09 2:54PM
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Shame that the pre-loaded ROM will be as complex as RISC OS itself :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/09 11:50AM
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Two nuns are a superfluity.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/09 12:07AM
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Of course, there's nothing stopping somebody just providing a download for the OS image along with instructions on how to get it going on a board bought from Digikey.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/09 12:06AM
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You can only sentence make no sense ???

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/5/09 9:57PM
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Say hi to Chris and Tim for me :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/5/09 8:34PM
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"Think out of the box." There's nothing out of the box about what you've written; it's all good common sense that seems to elude ROL.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/5/09 3:55PM
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You're suggesting that RISCOS Ltd.'s business model is to not put their product into new markets? No wonder we're in trouble. They need to *sell* their product. If they're unwilling to do the work themselves in order to sell more copies of their product, they should be trying to convince hardware manufacturers to use them. That second option will be tricky. There's no information at all about licensing costs and terms on their website.

If they're actually interested in selling more copies, perhaps they should provide a copy of the sources to the RPCemu team, in order to improve the emulator and sell more copies of the "Virtually Free".

However; think about the A9 Home and the Iyonix. The A9 Home still doesn't have a finished OS, and many of the reasons given by A6 for this is the time, difficulty and moving goalposts involved. Hardly an indicator of a good HAL. Then you have the Iyonix that ROL promised an OS for. Again, not a sausage. I think that points very strongly to it not being very good, no?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/5/09 9:35AM
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They don't have a module called "HAL", if that's what you mean. They have a HAL, by virtual of splitting all the hardware access out of the kernel. But it doesn't appear to be as useful, given the number of platforms on which ROL's OS runs on. (ie: two, RiscPC-like and A9Home, verses the at least three of the CTL one, forgetting any boards Pace developed).

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/5/09 12:45AM
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I believe recent RISC OS Selects check if they're running on a RiscStation. So I suspect it's trivial, but best ask RISCOS Ltd. The ABLE ROM that ships with the 50 quid boards might even be able to boot it from the network/disc/flash/etc.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/5/09 12:44AM
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The DisplayLink chipset is very nice; you can even do FMV over it. No specifications, and no drivers for anything other than Windows and Mac OS :( I don't get companies who think all their IP is in a protocol, rather than the hardware and software engineering. No matter.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 4:33PM
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No, now would be a great time to replace RiscPKG with something that's maintained and designed.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 4:10PM
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We have a couple of those at work. They're quite nice. But no IO, really. Also, I don't know of any USB to VGA/DVI dongles for which the specification is available.

Also, tip for SheevaPlug owners: you have cut the provided USB mini B cable's plastic work off for it to actually fit in the console/JTAG socket securely. Sigh.

The Sheeva itself is available in some nice packages that are even easily laid out on 2 layer PCBs (not just 2 layers, 2 layers of PCB!). With PCIe, throw a video card on and such, and away you go. This could perhaps even be done by an advanced hobbyist.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 3:31PM
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Given you can still buy the motherboards new for 50 quid, I'm tempted to offer £5.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 2:21PM
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Few years? Try decade. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 2:19PM
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$150 of course gets you the motherboard and RAM; no mass storage or networking. By the time you've put it in a box, added networking, mass storage/optical media perhaps, power supply, gone through required regulation test, I imagine it'll end up costing the same as low-end PCs, which of course can run emulators. Still, a lot cheaper than now, were people still try to sell RiscStations for £550 on eBay.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 1:19PM
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Tens of thousands.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 11:32AM
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What didn't you use about the Iyonix? Please use threaded replies, or indicate who you are replying to!

As for the DSP on the OMAP; yes it's quite nice. The licence fee for pre-created codecs and the price of the compiler for it are not. :(

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/09 9:15AM
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As I said, nobody who likes their antique software would be forced; but you seemed to ignore that.

As for the advantages; performance, memory efficiency, and single code base. All big and important improvements.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/5/09 8:36PM
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ARM8 is not the same as Cortex-A8, which is essentially ARM12. While some A8s are partially super-scaler, notice they say "up to"; not all instructions can be simultainously dispatched. In fact, most can't. Most XScales have large caches and very fast interconnects (The OMAP range have a slow local bus and SPI). The new Ferocean/Sheeva XScale cores are meant to be much faster. My bet is that they're similar in performance.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/5/09 8:35PM
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What did the interface chip in the original netbook do? Incidentally, Linux runs fine on that hardware, and has done for some time.

"The point is that RISCOS Ltd itself was not set up to try and replace Acorn. Its business plan was to help the existing Software and Hardware Developers continue their businesses by offering a continued availability of RISC OS development, not to offer products that would compete with them." Mentioning no magazines, thumbnailing filers, internet suites etc.

"RISCOS Ltd has continued to do that over the past 10 years, and has put far more into the development of new features and bug fixes for RISC OS than ROOL has." No doubt. But then ROOL's not been around long, and the combination of Pace and CTL have put a lot of effort into bug fixes. Spending effort on "new features" isn't useful if the feature's aren't.

"The splitting up of Kernel into separate modules is a case in point as it makes the support of new hardware far easier with RISC OS 6, than using RISC OS 5." Given amateurs can port RISC OS 5 to completely new hardware in 6 months of spare time, and nobody has yet managed to release a RISC OS 6/Adjust32 system for anything in years, I strongly doubt this. In fact, the way the OS in the A9 is split up, it actually breaks more than it helps.

"The point is that it is not up to RISCOS Ltd to release new computers using RISC OS 6." So, when can we see a 32 bit RISC OS 6 for the RiscPC? This comes with huge benefits at the cost of not running antique software; and nobody would be forced to upgrade, anyway.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/5/09 3:46PM
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Nobody said it wasn't impossible. It's just a lot of effort for little gain. (Few of the new APIs are actually *useful*.)

Well done for finding a feature that a handful of people use; the 64k colour mode support hack, which is only useful because ROL haven't made a release suitable for machines with a design from the last decade and a half.

I see you don't content the dozens of other features that no body uses. I still stand by that most of the new features ROL have introduced see little, if any, use, and the tiny handful that ROOL's branch has are all extremely useful and well-regarded.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/5/09 3:28PM
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Skating over things? Being 32 bit-neutral is the central flagship feature of RISC OS 6. And nobody's seen it yet. I don't think that's skating over things to point out.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/5/09 3:26PM
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Psion made the Netbook. While they had outsourced the design of the "Psion LX" netbook, this project was canned when Psion decided to entirely leave the PDA market and concentrate on the Teklogix business group.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/5/09 3:25PM
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It's based on a similar kernel, and has a couple of the graphics libraries, but to call it OS X is a bit rich.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/5/09 3:25PM
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Sorry, where's the connection between OS X and long battery life? Even in x86 netbooks, the CPU is not the main consumer of power.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/5/09 3:24PM
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And how long will ROL continue to get enough money to pay for work on RISC OS? Precisely the same problem exists there, too. At least when the source is available to all, somebody can pick it up again years later when the fancy takes them, rather than it languishing closed, and lost forever.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/5/09 8:30PM
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Sure. Just look at all the effort put into new-fangled APIs that no software uses because they don't want to be tied to a specific version of RISC OS. Look at all the ripping out of stuff from the kernel into separate modules that from the user's perspective just makes *mo. confusing.

Here are a few others that I believe next to nobody uses; * ZeroConf, * Firewall and aliased interfaces, * PCX, PNM, XBM, SunRaster import in Paint, * Additional keycodes for multimedia keyboards, * Built-in command line zip tools, * Hardware profiles, * Multiple user accounts, * mDNS.

The list goes on. I'm sure somebody outthere uses those hideous "curved" buttons and graduations to make an elegant and understand GUI as blingy as a souped-up Nova. However, the features that make RISC OS 5 different from ROL's offering are the ones that are most appealing;

* A HAL that appears to be easy to work with, * Unicode, * Built-in USB, * PCI support.

That enough?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/5/09 8:27PM
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You can build the whole OS in one go, for a specific target. I don't know if the build system allows for different variants to share common elements, or if it has to rebuild them all again.

If RISC OS were cross-compilable, it'd scarcely matter.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/5/09 6:50PM
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Remember that there still hasn't been a non-beta release of the 32 bit RISC OS Adjust that all those RiscPC owners paid for. As for which is the most advanced, well, that's debatable. Most of the new features in ROL's strand are never used.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/5/09 4:37PM
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lym: Stuck on ARMs, nobody to contact about actual pricing for commercial use, no real "openness" or ability to cope if CTL vanish and RO's new owners have a change of heart, etc etc etc. It's much too complex, abitrary, unclear, and badly-written.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/5/09 11:52AM
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Nobody suggested it is. But just look at the developments the ROOL branch has had since anybody can easily dip into it. Features people actually want have been implemented! It's clearly working for them.

All we need now is ROL to release their sources under a sensible licence, and CTL to change the licence ROOL are forced to use for something more reasonable.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/5/09 11:55PM
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I agree; it's difficult to think there's even enough money left in the market to pay Paul's salary (if he even draws one). The continued life of RISC OS is not directly connected to the continued life and feasibility of a company. I entirely agree that RISC OS's future is in a more open, community-driven system, rather than ROL's current closed, mysterious, and apparently arbitrary system.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/5/09 9:51PM
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I hadn't even noticed there were two colours; the images used for the bars make it difficult for the hue-sense-impaired people like myself to spot. Perhaps just solid 0xff0000 and 0x0000ff?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/5/09 12:38PM
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I see a sense of humour failure. Drobe is an amusing tabloid. Let it continue to have hysterical running jokes, even if some people don't get them.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/5/09 10:38AM
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On Command-line tool splices and edits video and audio:

"However, once a RISC OS 5 version of the BeagleBoard becomes available, we will have a RISC OS system with a 600 MHz main processor and a dedicated AV processor, specifically designed for fast MPEG and MP3 playback." Actually, it has a DSP, of which some pre-compiled code for decoding some popular video and audio formats is available; for a fee. It's quite substantial. And so is the cost of the Windows-only development tools for this DSP.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/5/09 5:02PM
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On Is there a way out of RISC OS version number hell?:

Perhaps a solution is to have a flag to quickly make the comment invisible until you have time to study it, rather than editing it with no admission of such. (ie, if you're logged in as an admin, you can hide/unhide comments.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/5/09 8:24PM
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On Is there a way out of RISC OS version number hell?:

He's not saying anything about RISC OS; he's saying things about the people using it :)

Also, discounting somebody's (educated, involved, and informed, in imj's case, I imagine) simply because what they have to say is not positive is a cheap and meaningless shot.

For the most part, *I* don't feel there's a lot positive to talk about. Wooyay, Tablemate needs a new maintainer. Earth shattering!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/5/09 8:22PM
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Use the threaded view, and hope people don't click on the wrong "Reply" link?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/5/09 12:32AM
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Oooh, cool idea. Something trivial should be easy to throw together that uses RSA and SHA-256. Although it won't be nice in JavaScript >:)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/5/09 8:34PM
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We've not lived in that sort of society for some time :-/ Unfortunately, nagging your MP or similar about anything like this will get you no where.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/5/09 6:59PM
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On CJE seeks programmer to resurrect data entry package:

Just because somebody's interested in buying doesn't mean it wouldn't be a good choice for open-sourcing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/5/09 11:15PM
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Shame such a contract cannot be renegotiated given that it is most likely no longer relevant.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/5/09 4:34PM
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Perhaps this is one of the many pieces of software that would benefit from being made open source.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/5/09 11:53AM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Who are you thanking, and for what?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/4/09 3:15PM
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On RISC OS 5 spotted running on RPCEmu:

s/RPC/A9 Home and Omega/

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/4/09 3:15PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Digikey, and early days.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/4/09 11:56PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Nothing besides the kind of thing already on my employer's website.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 10:05PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Yes, that's one option. The overheads are still obviously much higher than using VFP directly, but is more compatible. A floating point emulator is not an easy thing to write at the best of times. And you're right; the expense of turning it off and on all the time may quickly add up such that it's not worth bothering.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 3:54PM
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On Wakefield 2009 wrap-up, photos and video:

Download size: 6.5kB. Are you sure? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 3:52PM
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On DigitalCD developer seeks beta testers for version 3.0:

Cor, do people still use AMPlayer? It sounds *dreadful* compared to the libmad port used elsewhere. libmad isn't quite as quick, but then it also means everything doesn't sound like the 90s.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 3:49PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

JTAG and MultiICE? Luxury! We do most of our Linux porting to fruity hardware without any of that, and don't have many problems. Saying that, it's amazing what a good deal of printk() and an oscilloscope can do for you.

(OK, we do use JTAG, but only for the initial programming of the flash with a boot loader.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 10:00AM
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On Wakefield 2009 wrap-up, photos and video:

Bang on with the embedded networking, USB and IDE? 8MB of video RAM? Simtec IDEFS? Voice? Come one, you just threw as many ideas as possible at an article and hoped one stuck; hardly bang-on :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 9:57AM
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On NetSurf reaches version 2.0:

Faster than what? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 9:54AM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

The FPEmulator continues to work, because you can turn the VFP off.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 12:05AM
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On Wakefield 2009 wrap-up, photos and video:

"an A7000 also running RISC OS 5 - which could mean we're close to a RiscPC-compatible build of RISC OS 5 being made freely available. The ROM image doesn't work with RPCEmu, though."

The reason it doesn't work is known, and it's RPCemu's CPU emulation at fault. (It can't actually emulate an A7500. What it does is more like a StrongARM with features turned off.)

"See, the Vpod does exist and it was the Drobe wot broke the news of it being a new graphics card"

Except you were wrong about every detail /apart/ from it being "video or voice over IP" :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/09 12:03AM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

Unfortunately, RISC OS's "antialiasing" is just rendering the glyph at a higher resolution and resampling it down. Blurryness ahoy!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 8:35PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

What are /you/ talking about? Which of the 40-odd postings here are you replying to? Please, try and use technology as it is intended, and not just mash nonsense at the keyboard.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 8:34PM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

There are only two, yes. But that doesn't effect the VPod, as it is not a DMA device. (Neither's the ViewFinder, IIRC, and there's very little advantage in any case when the bus is so crippled.) And there are four 32 bit slots.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 12:08PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Our experience differs from yours; where the cheaper end of the market only wear-levels the first few sectors; enough to cover the FAT.

I suggested JFFS2, because many modern ARM systems have bags of NAND in them that goes unused. (In the A9, for example, there's something like 256MB of which about 6MB is used, and it's all formatted JFFS2).

JFFS2 can mount things significantly more quickly if your implementation has summary node support. And unlike LogFS, it has a stable, clean, and understood implementation and behavior.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 12:06PM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

I just use a better font rasteriser that's already sharper, and find this works well.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 10:20AM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

You can put four.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 12:17AM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

I would have thought that 1900x1200 in 32 bit colour would fit in its memory, given that's just shy of 9M and the card has 32MB. Perhaps the memory map doesn't make it an easy thing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 12:16AM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

FAT could be /an/ option; modern implementations are almost universally actually rather good (guess which company can't produce a good implementation). I keep thinking RISC OS needs a JFFS2 implementation. A project on my todo list :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/09 12:14AM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Please do not confuse the terms "open source", "shared source", and "freeware".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 7:49PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

Applications storing data in DAs is an ugly hack. Storing it in the Wimp Slot is much much much wiser, but unfeasible under ROL's OS. Plus, 32 bit gives us shared libraries. Obtaining the sources to ROL's OS to fix glaring bugs is much more difficult than the same for ROOL's. I would certainly choose RISC OS 5 over any recent Select; I favor simplicity, design pedigree (as little as RISC OS has) and proven stability over Sun Raster import in Paint, a bundle of new APIs no applications use, broken abstractions from the kernel, and badly-drawn curved buttons.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 5:31PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm just saying don't underestimate the amount of work that has to be done; it's quite likely vastly more than has already gone in; and if you want the SD (its only on-board storage past internal flash) and reliability, a new file system might even be needed! (Most SD cards, unless you buy the really nice expensive ones, have wear-leveling algorithms based around FAT.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 5:26PM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

I'm quite happy with twin-head 1680x1050, but then I don't do any CAD work or anything.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 12:36PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

AMS: You can't easily use the VFP and the FPA10 emulator at the same time; so you have to choose (their instruction spaces overlap); compatibility and low performance, or high performance but only a handful of apps that work with it.

And by "can't easily", I mean a right complete ballache.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 12:35PM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

AMS: Except we can't use the floating point without recompiling everything and searching through the OS to find all the assembler that uses the old FPA10 instruction set, and the DSP development tools are eye-wateringly expensive.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 10:04AM
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On RISCOS Ltd relaunches riscos.com with new design:

Not the first time RISCOS Ltd. has made outlandish, unconvincing, and some might say outright wrong assertions though, is it?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 12:26AM
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On RISC OS 5 pictured running on ARM Cortex-A8 kit:

It has to be said, if the Beagle on the ROOL stand was anything to go by, only a handful (less than 10) of the modules have actually been ported; just enough to do what is shown in this photo. There's a huge amount of work to be done yet past what the HAL allows you to do with respect to the very low level parts of the hardware; USB, sound, mass storage, better video use, etc. will be much more effort than has already been spent.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/09 12:23AM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

I'm told RISC OS can't use both a ViewFinder and a V-Pod at the same time. I think the aim is to make this sort of upgrade available again to people who missed the VF boat. Looks like there might be bags of room for future improvements, though; lots of juicy-looking pin arrays that seem to have nothing plugged in.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/09 2:46PM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

Seems faster, can be bought with a warranty.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/09 1:19PM
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On Vpod: first pictures of new RiscPC graphics card:

I don't know if it supports resolutions higher than that, but it really doesn't need much RAM beyond 32MB. Shame about the DVI connector, but there are bags of pin arrays on it, so perhaps one can be retrofitted later. The machines feel quite snappy; certainly taking advantage of the acceleration they provide. Possibly the first podule with BGAs and heat sinks!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/09 12:59PM
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On RISCOS Ltd relaunches riscos.com with new design:

Looks like a quickly thrown-together front page linking to old content generated by Xara. Full of pixel positioning that hardly ever renders right. Ironically, it says "Best viewed in Netsurf(sic)" and it doesn't even render properly in NetSurf. I love the trolling headline, too, about exclusivity. And let's not mention the document's title. Still, at least they've listened to people saying how crap it was and used a GUI tool for 20 minutes to make something marginally better :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/4/09 11:12PM
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On Text adventure classic Colossal Caves converted to BASIC:

You'll need an entire compiler in the runtime. And the hoops to jump through some of the baroque control structures you can create will be flaming and radioactive.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/4/09 12:12AM
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On Three student coders picked to work on NetSurf over the summer:

We need to change how the document is stored in memory to provide that DOM API, so it's close enough. And yes, it's his brother.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/4/09 6:16PM
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On Text adventure classic Colossal Caves converted to BASIC:

Sorry, you said something?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/4/09 3:45PM
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On Back-up utility SafeStore updated to be network storage friendly:

Surely what makes the hours worthwhile is the pay? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/4/09 1:47PM
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On Text adventure classic Colossal Caves converted to BASIC:

Unfortunately, your aim is impossible, due to BBC Basic's dynamic and arbitrary nature. An interesting project, none the less; especially if you separate parser from code generator!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/4/09 12:14AM
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On Were you fooled by our ASCII 'new look'?:

It might even help people's literacy, too!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/4/09 1:00PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

You've got the AICMFP bit right.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/4/09 7:11PM
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On More Vpod rumours surface:

Don't forget the 8 bit expansion socket with econet compatibility!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/4/09 7:06PM
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On More Vpod rumours surface:

Surely that'd make it the VniPod? :) Video input would be of limited use...

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/4/09 1:36PM
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On More Vpod rumours surface:

Different decodings? I suspect very strongly that they're at least partly used simply as an interface to the podule bus, like almost all other CPLDs on podules are used for. Also, CPLDs tend to only be programmable via JTAG, unlike FPGAs, which tend to have an external EEPROM that could be reprogrammed easily from the computer it's plugged into. Unless Advantage Six also plan on selling JTAG dongles with RISC OS software, though!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/4/09 12:17PM
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On More Vpod rumours surface:

CPLDs are nothing new and you can't read much into them; The UNIpod also has two CPLDs, almost all IDE cards made for RiscPCs in recent years are based on CPLDs, and even the ViewFinder was basically a CPLD on a podule with an AGP socket attached.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/4/09 9:49PM
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On More Vpod rumours surface:

If it's rumoured to be an UNIpod with video, I doubt you could "upgrade", only part exchange, due to the extra hardware required to implement the new features.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/4/09 8:32PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

It's been explained numerous times before. Look around at the other polls. And no, poking fun at somebody who /won't/ answer back is their own look out. Dave's more than able to answer back if he so wishes, and has refused to, even on the news groups when directly questioned on the issue.

Calm down. Sit down. Have a cup of tea. Stop getting worked up about something that's going over your head.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/4/09 11:38AM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

I see no insult. And thanks for calling everybody else puerile and childish for finding it amusing when you don't see the joke. How ironic.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/4/09 12:23PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

YADSAICMFP.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/4/09 12:16AM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

Sorry, but by definiation, the one who doesn't fine the witt funny is the one who has had the sense of humour failure. Also, Drobe now offers threading, a technology of the 70s. Please make use of it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/4/09 10:57PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

I think you, like Paul, have had both a massive sense of humour failure, as well as missing the point entirely. The Dave Holden issue is a witty and fabulous commentary on the market as it currently stands, or rather flops.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/4/09 12:17AM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

One assumes he moved them to his Iyonix, or another machine.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/4/09 11:43PM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Advantage Six already have a lot of experience in developing GPU drivers for RISC OS; so I expect it will be easy for them to write another. And podules are easy to design these days; they're so simple by modern standards. Select a local bus -attached chip to do what you want, and plonk a 3 quid CPLD in front of it. Job done.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/4/09 11:42PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

I wonder if ROL's new telephone numbers are an April Fool.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 10:19PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

Perhaps Drobe should add an Aaron option to all the polls, that means "This question is wrong."

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 10:06PM
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On 'Drobe should be accurately researched':

Paul Middleton isn't aware of the great Dave Holden conspiracy? I'm shocked, and amazed, in identical quantities.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 9:55PM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

The UNIpod was announced on April 1st, too. And that exists.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 11:55AM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Are any podules actually supported and known-working in the Iyonix?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 11:12AM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

I don't believe STD produce perfect software; see my comment about USB :) I don't think I'm lucky; I think you're unlucky. I know perhaps a dozen people who experience joy with the Unipod's ethernet... and one person who doesn't.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 9:21AM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Well, it clearly works reliably elsewhere. So it's not just that the driver is completely funted; so there must be some other issue at hand. I wonder if it's worth trying a Net100, as the driver's essentially the same.

Come to think of it, you're the only person I know of who has ever mentioned any issue with it. Perhaps there is an incompatibility with some piece of software you favour?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/4/09 12:12AM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Perhaps it's something to do with your hardware, rather than the software, then.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/4/09 9:55PM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Gigabytes and gigabytes over a Unipod's ethernet begs to differ... Although I don't own a single USB device that actually works properly with the stack in the A9 or the Unipod.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/4/09 8:11PM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Given STD/Adv6 are a business, I suspect they've just seen a business opportunity given how much Viewfinders have gone for on eBay recently. What's odd is not that STD are going to be selling a RiscPC upgrade. What's odd is that there's people to buy it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/4/09 12:04PM
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On Will Wakefield 2009 see a new graphics card for RISC OS?:

Producing CPU upgrades for the RiscPC would be insane. Firstly, the non-CPU hardware is just too slow, and would rapidly become the bottleneck. (ie, a RiscPC couldn't keep one XScale stoked with data). Secondly, most people who keep RiscPCs do so to run ancient software that won't work on an A9 or an Iyonix; installing a bundle of XScales in it would be pointless.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/4/09 12:03PM
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On What should be NetSurf's priority?:

I suggest educating the people you work for. A stick with rusty nails in it might be handy for this task.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/3/09 2:39PM
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On What should be NetSurf's priority?:

Why not have, you know, links to change the content on the page, rather than HTML injected into the DOM via JavaScript? This has the advantage that it doesn't screw up history navigation, too.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/3/09 2:17PM
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On What should be NetSurf's priority?:

We'd rather the problem was fixed in the right place. Which unfortunately will never happen, so the C library is the next best choice. Adding in multiple layers of ugly hack to fix an issue unique to just one system NetSurf runs on seems like the wrong choice, no?

If we didn't think very carefully about everything we do, NetSurf would just be another WebsterXL. And nobody wants that. So you're damned right we aim for the worthy and architectually beautiful.

(And unfortunately, sliding hack heaps are not something you can easily abstract, which means even the OSes with designs from the last 30 years would have to suffer the performance-degrading foulness.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/3/09 8:58PM
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On What should be NetSurf's priority?:

Sorry, I don't think any of the NetSurf developers think that OS- and Application-specific hacks like you suggest beat the generic solution of having an OS with a memory allocator from the 20th century, or a C library that hides that hideousness from us.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/3/09 4:16PM
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On What should be NetSurf's priority?:

NetSurf leaks very little. The problem is that RISC OS's memory management doesn't lend itself to situations where an application's heap can become fragmented. The memory is free, unfortunately, it's only available to NetSurf to use again. Several people (including myself) have looked into using sparse dynamic areas to help solve this issue (although it'd appear to be using more memory than it was!), it is unfortunately just too soul destroying.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/3/09 2:37PM
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On Last issue of Foundation RISCWorld published:

It's always nice when your market gives you an easy reason to escape. I hope Aaron's business blossoms with the extra time he has to spend on it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/3/09 9:04PM
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On Should ROL concentrate on a new ARM port of the OS?:

Anon: Oh, and also: getting your product mentioned on ARM's community website is completely different from actually getting customers to use your product for anything. It's easy to get on that site; you could most likely do so now if you wanted. Being on it is as much a measure of success as you would imagine; not at all.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/3/09 8:25PM
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On Should ROL concentrate on a new ARM port of the OS?:

Anon: A reference design is just as it suggests. It's a hardware design that other manufacturers can use as a reference. It shows something that is known-working that approaches in similarity what it is the manufacturer wants to do. Why would anybody waste time and not inconsiderable amounts of money developing a RISC OS hand-held with no evidence at all that it'd even work nicely, or at all? Reference designs, like real products, are expensive to develop, and without any real guarantee of hardware manufacturers buying into RISC OS, it's a massive and huge gamble for an organisation with next to no money. Which is almost certainly why they've not done it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/3/09 8:23PM
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On Google to fund another round of NetSurf development:

Stewy: The problem there is that students with an interest in RISC OS are exceedingly rare.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/3/09 3:01PM
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On Should ROL concentrate on a new ARM port of the OS?:

Of course, Dave Holden is listed because he has the only correct answer, but won't tell anybody what it is; only that he has it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/3/09 10:48AM
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On Get RISC OS running on Puppy Linux with RPCEmu:

It depresses and terrifies me that people use Puppy. Most packages are "maintained" by people who are mostly completely clueless, and completely ignorant of the security and legal implications of how they've done it. It's all a huge horrible hack, as I discovered when I tried to make NetSurf packages for it, and ended up rewriting half of the package authoring tools to not be fundamentally broken. Not recommended by me; use Fedora or Ubuntu.

Fortunately, much of this walk-through applies to most distributions.

DS1: Use subversion to check out the source code.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/2/09 5:38PM
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On Paul Vigay found dead off Southsea seafront:

Book of Condolence: [link]

Very sad.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/2/09 4:51PM
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On Hundreds more printers supported on RISC OS with Gutenprint port update:

Monty: I was polite initially, and explanatory, but Anon replied with more nonsense RISC OS fanboy baseless jingoism. As well as being wrong.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/2/09 9:20AM
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On Hundreds more printers supported on RISC OS with Gutenprint port update:

"The same apples to kilobytes and megabytes." You really have no idea, do you? And you're still confusing your units. Some people will never learn.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/2/09 9:22PM
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On Hundreds more printers supported on RISC OS with Gutenprint port update:

Woah, you've really no clue, have you? No criticism from somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about is constructive. It's your computer that's slow, not Gutenprint.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/2/09 10:37PM
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On Hundreds more printers supported on RISC OS with Gutenprint port update:

Truly sloppy programmers confuse MB and Mb, too. Last time I looked at Gutenprint, some of its transformations made extensive use of floating point. And memory consumption is hardly ever an indicator of runtime performance. Perhaps you should point your finger elsewhere.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/2/09 5:46PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

Having used both CPUs, yes they are comparable. But comparable just means you can compare them :) The Atom chipset's bags faster, but more importantly runs more software.

Dual-core Atoms are already available (and still retain Hyperthreading, so they have four hardware threads).

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/1/09 9:06AM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

They already are shipping. Also remember that these systems get shipped with very capable graphics accelerators, too. Certainly more capable than any GPU + drive combination RISC OS currently has.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/1/09 10:50PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

Silicon Motion SM501. The other issue is that while the SoC's peripherals will all be the same, the memory map may be very different indeed; external peripherals (RAM, Flash, ethernet, etc etc) may (and most likely will) be in different places, with different timings, and different drivers needed.

All I'm saying is that it's not as easy as it sounds.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/1/09 5:22PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

Unfortunately, the CPU isn't the only bit of work to do. The A9 Home has a dedicated GPU, for which a lot of work was required to get it to work under RISC OS. While the 2440 has a built-in dumb framebuffer, it lacks hardware mouse pointer support (a bigger issue than it sounds), and even running at 640x480 is seriously saps memory bandwidth. I suspect this netbook also has a GPU (or just has poor performance) that would need drivers for RISC OS.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/1/09 4:52PM
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On Work starts on a RISC OS 5 ARM Cortex port:

You mean apart from the S3C2440, as used in the A9 Home, which has been available for yonks and Samsung are commited to continuing to provide for yonks further?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/1/09 12:44AM
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On A guide to overclocking Kinetic and StrongARM CPU cards:

Doesn't the board already contain two CPLDs for doing other memory-related hacks anyway?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/1/09 4:23PM
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On What should be the platform's priority for 2009?:

So, I assume there's some voodoo dance I've got to do in order to be able to vote?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/1/09 11:37PM
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On RISC OS Firefox port in bug fix update:

Isn't this version of Firefox no longer updated for security fixes?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/1/09 9:40PM
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On Drobe Awards 2008: The results:

Wooyay. Thanks to everybody who voted for NetSurf. We shouldn't forget the huge contributions done by the GCCSDK team, without which NetSurf would not be possible.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/12/08 5:47PM
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On Paul Vigay's animated image package enters public beta:

Paul boggles me sometimes. wtf does he care if somebody has no rDNS? What possible reason does he have?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/12/08 2:43PM
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On The leaked ROL licence is the dullest thing you will ever read:

Have you not read The Lord Of The Rings, then?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/12/08 12:47AM
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On RISCOS Ltd's head licence with E14 leaked:

bucksboy: Nothing further to be gained? What about the jollyment of it all? I've not had so much fun in years.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/12/08 7:01PM
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On Something positive to take from the OS 5 ROM licensing saga:

But again, ROOL was never going to licence RISC OS for commercial purposes; they always directed people wishing to do so to Castle.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/12/08 1:43PM
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On Something positive to take from the OS 5 ROM licensing saga:

"This letter quite specifically states that RISCOS Ltd support what ROOL is doing, in particular RISCOS Ltd supports (quoting from the letter): The release of the source code by RISC OS Open Ltd either via the website or sold on a CD; RISC OS Open Ltd (releasing) RISC OS ROMs without having to pay a licence fee to RISCOS Ltd and RISC OS Open Ltd (offering) a commercial licence to potential RISC OS 5 users and to profit from such a licence."

Just a minute, selling RISC OS was never in ROOL's plan or remit, was it? They're just distributing sources given to them by Castle under the same licence anybody can receive them under.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/12/08 9:51AM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

Why does ROOL need to be provided with anything? Are you suggesting that if I were to mirror the sources on my own site, I'd need a licence from ROL too?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/12/08 2:05PM
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On Techie docs for mystery Acorn CAD workstation surface:

It's unclear who owns RISC iX. I'd be interested in knowing the answer, however.

Also: Who owns what exists of ARX?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/12/08 1:00AM
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On NetSurf 2.0 release pencilled for April 2009:

Keyboard navigation? NetSurf doesn't do keyboard navigation, even on RISC OS. (Past tabbing around form text entry widgets.) Do you mean something else?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/12/08 1:34PM
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On Techie docs for mystery Acorn CAD workstation surface:

My understanding is that ArcEm can run RISC iX. I also recall the product being generally considered a failure; Sun gave many universities kit so cheaply it was almost free, while Acorn had to pay Sun huge royalties for each copy of RISC iX sold.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/12/08 1:35AM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

Incidentally, I own all the tar in your lungs.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/12/08 1:33AM
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On South East 2008 theatre talk videos now online:

kuliand: The RiscPC's ROM sockets can only contain 4MB of data - there simply aren't the address lines for more. Previous select releases were small enough (about 6MB) that they could be compressed into 4MB. I assume 6.10 has become too large to compress into 4MB.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/12/08 12:02PM
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On Christmas 2008 show photos:

Yes, you need the FPE and the Squash module to run what you'd normally consider to be RISC OS.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/12/08 11:26PM
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On Community-produced RISC OS 5.14 in final testing:

Anybody seriously considering developing RISC OS like this really should obtain a JTAG probe. They're not expensive. Perhaps ROOL should put some information on their site about known working combinations?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/12/08 9:32AM
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On Christmas 2008 show photos:

> The most interesting thing at the show was an Iyonix on the RISC OS Open stand running a ROM built from the RISC OS 5 shared sources - proving that a free downloadable RISC OS 5 ROM image is now viable.

One thing it is worth noting though there are components for which the source is not yet available (such as FPEmulator and Squash) and you have to use binary blobs to make a working image.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/12/08 10:40PM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

"It is amusing to imagine that for every e14/Pace/Tematic/Castle-financed commit to RO source repository, the copyright (i.e. ownership) has been automatically assigned to ROL. As I said, I would love to read a licence that tries to achieve this."

This sounds a lot like SCO saying that IBM put their copyrighted code into Linux. What actually happened, it seems, is that IBM put JFS (their file system from AIX) into Linux. SCO tried to pretend that because AIX was based off their stuff, everything IBM did to it was theres. Laughable. Much like this claim, unfortunately.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/12/08 10:37PM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

AW: If you want accuracy, try starting with getting RISCOS Ltd.'s name right. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/12/08 12:26AM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

I look forward to the open-sourcing of it, then >:)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/12/08 4:32PM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

Sure, people are entitled to be positive and fool themselves. Calling for others to be delusial is, well, deluded.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/12/08 11:21PM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

Or apply the same hacky ROM patching voodoo. RPCemu has some of this, from what I recall. Might be worth porting it over to VA.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/12/08 11:20PM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

Paul: Perhaps you could do another year report highlighting all these new users? You've not done a public one in quite some time. I strongly suspect that the number of people leaving massively outweighs any new users.

And I don't think Drobe should be some "positive platform" - I'd rather it was realisitic and neutral. Fooling yourselves does nothing for anybody.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/12/08 11:36AM
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On Upgrade to RISC OS 4 for twenty quid:

The version of RISC OS they are offering here requires a RiscPC-class (including things like A7000s etc) hardware, where Red Squirrel and ArcEm only emulate A5000/A540 class hardware. They should work under RPCEmu under Linux though, I suspect.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/12/08 10:55AM
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On Midland Christmas show this Saturday:

See you there, people.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/12/08 12:16AM
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On New lead developer for RPCEmu emerges:

druck: Indeed. If you're really careful, you can represent all the important ARM registers in AMD64 registers. And using mmap() carefully gives you swap for free. (ie, just emulate a machine with 2GB of RAM, regardless of how much RAM the host machine has.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/12/08 7:51PM
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On Executive decision time for Midlands show:

Or alternatively, realistic and sensible. No point being silly out of stuborness.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/11/08 5:26PM
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On Experimental RISC OS emulation layer for ARM-powered devices:

And how many come to useful fruition?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/11/08 9:20AM
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On Adventures with a Lego-cased A7K web server:

I think the A7000 hardware is indeed too puny for you to get meaningful results, here. I suspect the performance difference between RISC OS and Linux on, say, a StrongARM RiscPC, would be somewhat larger.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/11/08 10:12AM
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On Geeks celebrate RISC OS time epoch:

Buh, drobe's reformatted my comment insanely. Anyway, on almost all modern UNIX systems, time_t is 64 bit.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/11/08 11:56PM
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On Geeks celebrate RISC OS time epoch:

rjek@trite:~$ cat test.c #include <stdio.h> #include <time.h>

main() { printf("%d\n", sizeof(time_t)); }

rjek@trite:~$ ./a.out 8

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/11/08 11:56PM
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On Adventures with a Lego-cased A7K web server:

But, but, but! RISC OS kit uses less power!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/11/08 11:54PM
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On Geeks celebrate RISC OS time epoch:

ninja: FileCore stores them in the full 40bit format.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/11/08 3:36PM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

I think ROL was created by people from the community to keep RISC OS alive. The method of this was the development of RISC OS 4.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/11/08 9:32AM
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On Iyonix emulator mulled by developer:

Is that just anti-Microsoft bias rather than logic? The .NET CLR is vastly better designed than Java's pseudocode - you get better performance and tighter memory usage. (Because it's register-based rather than stack-based.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/11/08 9:31AM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

You assume anybody in the market has the money to bring such a motion. I don't believe for an instant ROL can possibly be solvent, throwing away the last of the cash to fight a scheme to help keep RISC OS in use would be arrogant in the extreme, given that purpose is why they were created themselves; and in the long term, they have failed.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/11/08 7:41PM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

In terms of what developer time is available, yes. A lot of work.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/11/08 6:09PM
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On New driver to read and write large USB storage devices:

It's a real file system, so you can use files from it directly, rather than having to copy them out first. It also means you can use the filer, and save stuff back.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/11/08 10:36AM
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On The new apple of my eye:

How user-friendly, intuitive, and obvious!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/11/08 6:17PM
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On The new apple of my eye:

I remember spending a could 10 minutes trying to work out how to rename a file in the Finder in Mac OS X before resorting to the command line. Apparently, you need to click on the "Get Info" menu item in order to "Set Info" like the file name. STAB STAB STAB.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/11/08 4:41PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Do as little in PHP as possible, and as much in the database. Get it to work for you. Make sure you have sensible indexes. Profile your queries and your PHP.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/11/08 10:39AM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Advantages the new Drobe has over the old; 1) Threaded comments 2) Faster loading 3) None of that broken moderation nonsense 4) Less cluttered layout, and most importantly; 5) Updates.

If you don't like it, offer your time and experience, not hollow criticism. :-p

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/11/08 9:29AM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

druck, stop it with the grumpy nonsense. The old "colourful" drobe had offsite-links as articles too, it's just they're now integrated rather than separate. If you give Chris a chance, rather than being grumpy at him, I'm sure he'll post some real articles. I simply don't understand the HTML2 comment; it looks nothing like what can be done in HTML2. And the comments aren't unordered, they're put in the more useful ordering.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/11/08 9:26AM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

I'm sure Chris will offer you a full refund.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/11/08 12:45PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

There was an article some time ago giving a link to the "beta" version that was almost completely fully-functional.

Still, if you don't like it, just use the RSS feed :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/11/08 9:26AM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

New content? The only difference is that the quickies (that used to appear on the left) are now integrated into the main feed: full articles are still there.

Why didn't you make your opinion known earlier?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/11/08 1:35PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Well, for a start, the new style integrates the quickies into the main section of the page, so simple things can be published where people will notice them more easily.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/11/08 8:17PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Yay! Although the article body appears to be in bold text here, which is a little difficult to read - I imagine worse if it's a longer article.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/11/08 8:16PM
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On Take a peek at the new look Drobe:

Yes, yes it is. The submit comment box could do with being wider, though :) Also, having the markup be documented/less thick for bonus points!

Previously, Drobe would email you if you had the last comment when somebody else commented. Will it correctly email you regardless when somebody replies to a comment of yours?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/11/08 10:33PM
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On South East 2008 show round up:

Andrew Weston: I think you might be misunderstanding the situation. An emulator exists so software doesn't have to access hardware directly (because the hardware you're running it on isn't what it is expecting.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/10/08 10:42PM
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On South East 2008 show photos:

Hmm - I should have shaved. Although there are certain things you just can't be faffed to do when you get up at 5am to arrive at the other end of the country for 9!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/10/08 12:03AM
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On Geminus re-released as free download:

Hmm, no A9 Home version? :( Also, I wonder if Aemulor might someday be a free download?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/10/08 9:42AM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

hzn: Well, Aaron's categorically stated it can't happen. And I imagine, given he's a director of both companies, the copy-protection requirement may well have been his idea anyway.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/10/08 12:27AM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

hzn: There is no evidence that RO5 is cheaper to licence than ROL's offering. Of course, it would be difficult for it not to be. And there are hundreds, if not thousands, of explanations of why there hasn't been a recent A9 Home ROM image release.

Aaron has told be in the past that Virtual Acorn are unable to sell VRPC without a copy of RISC OS. He would not be drawn on why this was - otherwise we could just use a RiscPC ROM image from the ROOL guys when/if such a thing became available.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/10/08 5:18PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Stoppers: You seemed to be suggesting that it mandated a UNIX-like file system. It doesn't have to use a network protocol, it can use shared memory or a plethora of other IPC systems. It does offer cut-and-paste, there are dozens of different choices for video systems (from overlay, direct framebuffer manipulation, etc). Passing temporary files between processes in such a way is a sign of bad design, IMO. (Especially given you could send the data via IPC). X can quite happily sit in 16MB of RAM; there was plenty of memory left over on the PDA prototype we demonstrated at Wakefield, for example; and that only had 128MB of RAM. Most of its usage on desktops are for the plethora of modules and such it can have loaded. It still seems like you have a lot of preconceptions about X that simply aren't true, and are ignoring all of its huge advantages. Of course, it's your project - you can do what you want.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/10/08 1:18PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Monty: Well, by "assets" what do you mean? RISC OS doesn't actually have that much worth in the business sense these days. Also remember that the source isn't entirely owned by one party: many companies have been involved in the development of RISC OS, and permission must be gained from them to release their parts. Specifically, huge chunks of the internet stack, the floating point, and the SCSI stack are owned by other people.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/10/08 4:22PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Stopper: That's the first and only reasonable argument you've given for using the FB rather than X :) Although saying that, X can fit in systems with only 64MB of storage. (From the sounds of it, you had fundamentally misunderstood what X was. Which isn't surprisingly - there's a lot of misinformation about it.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/10/08 11:25AM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Simon: Except the framebuffer interface doesn't support anywhere near the wide range of acceleration. And no, ROLF won't run on anything that will run Linux for the same reason X won't. Not all platforms have the same framebuffer interface. X is still more portable in this respect. As for network transparency, it's a free feature. I use it routinely, and it's surprisingly useful from time to time. Why discount it? There are already a wealth of VNC servers for X - why reimplement it? And what does having a single directory tree for all applications have to do with X? And nothing *forces* you to use other X applications with a differing interface, but again; why discount this as an option?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/10/08 5:18PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Simon: As I've described before, using X gets you excellent acceleration, better portability, network transparency, and a wealth of existing software work for free. X does not do GUIs, it's just a graphics abstraction, and thus just by using X you wouldn't always end up with a UNIX-like UI. X does not even mandate running on UNIX.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/10/08 1:43PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Woah, I feel like I'm in a Stanley Kubrick film. ie, random stuff happens for no apparent reason, and it leaves you feeling dull and unsatisfied. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 09/10/08 10:35PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

arenaman: [link]

Incidentally, Apple didn't. They cloned the GUI on top of a UNIX-like environment: it wasn't the old one that they'd ported. And there are significant differences between them.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 09/10/08 09:44AM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

thegman: Well, it's well-understood that Apple are shoddy at hardware engineering :) The CPU is not the major, or even the second most major consumer of power in a laptop. And my laptop will quite happily return out of suspend or hibernation within a couple of tens of seconds.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/9/08 12:01PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

thegman: Ah, I routinely build stuff on my laptop - and it doesn't run hot, or even warm. I can't imagine why somebody would select RISC OS for one device, but not another.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/9/08 11:17AM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

thegman: Why would you buy one over an Eee, given the Eee would likely be significantly cheaper and still faster?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/9/08 10:10AM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Andrew Weston: Of course, it's much more likely that the "next era" is the complete death of native hardware, and possibly RISC OS with it, rather than anything else. Pretending somehow that bad news is actually good is only useful if you're a politician, not a consumer or businessman. Thinking otherwise is just like putting your fingers in your ears and saying "lalalala".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/9/08 8:14PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

sascott: To be honest, I would have been surprised if any bank would have loaned any company money to spend on RISC OS, once it was known how large the market was, even before the crunch!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/9/08 2:55PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

pjjmcc: Firstly, it's "RISC OS" :) Secondly, there are many small formfactor computers out there. The Mac mini isn't significantly larger than an A9 Home, and yet people still identify it as a desktop machine. And printing, I'm told, does work fine assuming your printer's supported or you network print.

Personally, I rather like its medialess style: the only thing I use an optical drive for these days in my PC is ripping CDs and playing games, neither of which I'd want to do on a RISC OS box anyway.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/9/08 11:34PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

pjjmcc: What does "The single OS dedicated desktop manufacturer to drop out." mean?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/9/08 10:36PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Mac9: Depending on what you're doing (say, what the majority of computer users use computers for), the "big Cadillac" is vastly more efficient than the Iyonix. The Iyonix just doesn't have the grunt to get the things lots of people want to do done in any timely manner. So you end up waiting and tapping your foot, while it spends longer and longer doing it, eating more and more power.

What technology does your RiscPC have that's way ahead of your PC? And wtf have you done to your PC that makes it eat a kilowatt? (My desktop, incidentally, is approximately 5 times the speed of an Iyonix, so quite modest in PC terms, and eats 140W when loaded.)

Jingoism has no place at funerals.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/9/08 2:26PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

bluenose: You speak as if something tangible past an idea for the Iyonix 2 exists. I seen no evidence what-so-ever for such an assumption, especially given they appear to have been asking for UKP100,000 to "finish" it - that's pretty much the amount you'd need to design and complete it in the first place.

Your Linux idea is nice. How does it differ from the VRPC or RPCemu solutions, both of which essentially provide HALs bridging RISC OS's understanding of hardware to that of a host OS?

It's important to not forget that there are people still selling native RISC OS hardware, and they've made no announcement of stopping.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/9/08 10:48PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Col1: OEM customers? Selling what to whom? Have you looked at their returns from Companies' House? They're almost idle, and have been for some time.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/9/08 7:59PM
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On Iyonix range taken off the market:

Paul Vigay seems to be suggesting that an Iyonix 2 was close, and it only needed 5K to finish from 20 people. In his slightly ambigious statement (5K each, or 5K total), I have decided to interpret it as 5K each, given 5K total is a piffling amount. 100K is more than enough to /design/ a replacement from scratch, so one assumes that the Iyonix 2 hadn't gone beyond the "would be nice" stage.

This leaves us only with Advantage Six, Virtual Acorn, and RPCemu for the future. I do not see Castle as having a future trying to license RISC OS to others (who would license it?)- I suspect they'll even have to pay their company returns out of their directors' own pockets. They're doomed.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/9/08 7:22PM
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On Wakefield 2008 show photos:

ajb: That is my understanding.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/04/08 7:53PM
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On Wakefield 2008 show photos:

AW: See my reply on usenet. Quick answer: They're completely different tasks.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/04/08 3:05PM
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On Wakefield 2008 show photos:

Stoppers: I've done that too :) Legend has it that the creation of Dave's Insanity Sauce, an ultra-hot chilli sauce, was driven by Dave's need to get people to leave his bar late at night. I prefer vanillia vodka in general though: it ends up being like alcoholic cream soda.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/4/08 12:24PM
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On Wakefield 2008 show photos:

VinceH: It was around my house :) Easy to make: buy a bottle of Absolut. Buy a /real/ vanilla pod. Insert pod into bottle. Wait six months. ajb: Yes, they did. They had nothing new to show, AFAICT.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/4/08 10:50AM
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On Wakefield 2008 show photos:

Fortunately, I managed to avoid Chris's lens. Alas, I did not manage to avoid hotpot's.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/08 10:26PM
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On Wakefield 2008 show live news:

fylfot: All I could gleam was that it was a point-and-click interface with a pamphlet-sized guide on how to use it. I didn't investigate much, however.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/08 9:27PM
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On Wakefield 2008 show live news:

arawnsley: One assumes you're using a custom Windows installation? I seem to recall the Eee can netboot. A few hours of effort setting up a network installation server, it shouldn't take more than a couple of hours to install all that software precisely to your specification using BartPE.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/08 4:18PM
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On Who would want an A9home PDA?:

Sure, a screen keyboard's easy. I think most people (certainly me!) tire from using them after significantly shorter periods of time than you'd expect to be using a word processor for.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/4/08 12:47PM
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On NetSurf bags GBP10K investment from Google:

Spriteman: Printing to PDF doesn't get you things such as contents or links. Additionally, if we can emit PDFs, we can emit PostScript reasonably easily, making printing easier on other platforms.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/04/08 1:01PM
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On Who would want an A9home PDA?:

Jess: Name two industrial control systems from different vendors that have the same GUI, regardless of the OS they run: it simply isn't important. (And in any case, there are only two main "GUIs" for Linux these days, and they're roughly identical across distributions)

nijinsky: IME in the embedded and custom control world, the price of the OS does matter. It's not just the runtime cost, it's the cost of the development and debugging tools, the cost of training your software engineering staff, the cost of porting the OS to your custom hardware, etc. Operating systems that already exist in this market (Linux, QNX, VxWorks, Nucleus, etc) don't suffer these problems to the same extent: they have debugging tools for a start (although the toolchains for some of them are expensive) but your softies almost certainly already know how to write good code for them, and they're trivial to port.

Additionally, I certainly wouldn't trust RISC OS to run something mission-critical, like a power station, distribution systems, monitoring of a jet engine etc!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/4/08 10:22AM
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On Who would want an A9home PDA?:

stevek: "Other reasons why RISC OS would be a good solution in the industrial controller market include - fast development using BASIC for prototyping applications, GCC if you need more speed, it is ROM based and low power requirements"

Unfortunately, Linux and Windows CE already have all of those advantages - and Linux is significantly cheaper!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/4/08 6:52AM
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On Who would want an A9home PDA?:

cables: Well, having the hardware released is different from you being able to load your TechWriter documents on it - it doesn't run RISC OS. And you'd have to plug in a USB keyboard for it to be useful for word processing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/08 10:26AM
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On Who would want an A9home PDA?:

Jymbob: It's a 640x480 VGA touch panel manufactured by URT. It's quite usable running GNOME.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/08 10:03AM
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On R-Comp unveils new PDF authoring package:

solarc: There is of course no need for mail to carry the insecure data at all. For example, given they're most likely using a CGI to drive the form anyway, the CGI dumps the sensitive information on the web server somewhere (if you're really clever, it does this by communicating to another process that writes the data as a file unreadable by the web server), and sends an email simply saying there are new orders waiting. Now, that data can be retrieved securely over SSH or SFTP, another web site with its own SSL, etc - there are dozens of perfectly secure possibilities that work with almost all commercial webhosters.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/4/08 9:37AM
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On Wakefield 2008 show preview:

sa110: Please, do not put images into people's mind line that during working hours!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/4/08 12:29PM
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On R-Comp unveils new PDF authoring package:

arawnsley: You seem to be missing the point. All the commericial online shopping systems (and the free ones) I have worked with have functionality to encrypt emails, or allow autheticated users to download them over HTTPS. Even the really rubbish ones. Infact, many banks these days *require* the retailer to have the information encrypted right up until it reaches their hands. Many banks won't even let you handle the information, and instead require to you use a payment gateway (such as Protx, Worldpay, etc) that your site redirects customers to, and they wire the money directly to you - you never have the secret information.

If you're so sure that virtually none of your business comes from your online sales, why you do insist on having such a dreadfully unsafe system to allow people to do so?

I suggest you talk to your bank ASAP about what requirements they have on your card handling with respect to where you get the details from: all the major banks in the UK have very strict requirements which your site currently disregards.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/4/08 12:16PM
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On R-Comp unveils new PDF authoring package:

I'm mildly surprised that his bank hasn't chastised him about it: it's utterly and unforgivably lax. It would be much more responsible of him to accept any "drop in sales" (which I doubt would occur these days given all the browsers support SSL) simply for giving his customers (and himself) more security. There's simply no excuse.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/4/08 10:15AM
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On NetSurf bags GBP10K investment from Google:

More like over two dozen students applied! Which was way more than any of us were expecting! If $500 comes my way as a mentor, I will put it in NetSurf's pot (used for expenses such as visiting shows, running the website and mailing lists, etc), or donate it to charity.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/4/08 9:19PM
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On Apple Mac VirtualRiscPC leaves beta:

hubersn: The issue here is that Microsoft and ROL aren't selling anything other than a CD: they are providing you a licence to use the software. Of course, if they want to sue their own paying customers, that's their prerogative; but I doubt they'll be customers for long.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/4/08 8:32PM
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On Apple Mac VirtualRiscPC leaves beta:

arawnsley: Although, under UK law, terms that prevent or limit interoperability are unenforcable. Assuming somebody has obtained RISC OS legally, running it under RPCemu is a grayer area than you might think.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/4/08 2:00PM
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On Apple Mac VirtualRiscPC leaves beta:

arawnsley: I seem to recall that Select subscribers are allowed to run Select on any machine they have - does that not include VRPC? Isn't it essentially a "site licence"? If not, perhaps if VA could provide a "site licence" to their emulator, and then sell RISC OS licences seperately?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/4/08 11:16AM
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On Apple Mac VirtualRiscPC leaves beta:

nijnsky: Install the TUN/TAP device driver used by things like OpenVPN, create a "virtual" network interface, and make up a MAC address to register VA with? I have no idea if that would work, but you can always try and then return the software under distance selling laws if it doesn't work out :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/4/08 10:18AM
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On Blu-ray disc burn breakthrough:

jess: Large files isn't a file system issue: it's an API issue. We already have file systems that support large files, if only RISC OS provided an API to access them. For example, UDF on CD/DVDs, FAT on USB sticks, NFS and SMB/CIFS over a network.

You seem to be obsessed by implementing hacks, rather than implementing things properly. Don't do that. RISC OS has too many hacks that were only meant to be stopgaps already.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/4/08 6:14PM
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On Blu-ray disc burn breakthrough:

Jess: Why do a hack when you can do it properly? And no, it wouldn't be viable.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/4/08 11:51AM
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On Blu-ray disc burn breakthrough:

jess: The faking sounds like a hack: and won't let you access pre-existing large files over, say, NFS. And yes - they should define an API - at the same time as redefining the entire API and ABI for the file system stack.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/4/08 4:41PM
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On Qercus columnist soldiers on after blog storm:

Of course, he could entirely exonerate himself by citing the URL of the place he copy and pasted from.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/3/08 10:22PM
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On Google funding offered to NetSurf project:

torbenm: I've always rather liked the logo - certainly after we replaced that rather, erm, over-zealous logotype with something plainer and more tasteful. Of course, people are free to draw new logos for the project, and the project as a whole will decide if they like it enough to switch :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/3/08 10:41AM
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On VirtualRiscPC spotted on Linux:

AMS: wtf are you talking about "hardware lock-in" ? You're free to choose what CPU you'd like to use. Just because x86 is the cheapest and fastest doesn't mean you're "locked in" - people don't choose it because they have to, they choose it because it makes sense to choose it, or they don't care.

You can of course still buy desktop machines using ARM, MIPS, PPC and SPARC. Although these all have specialist niche purposes. Nothing underhand has happened here - it's just that the most cost-effective product won. Which isn't surprising.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/3/08 11:00PM
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On VirtualRiscPC spotted on Linux:

markee174: RISC OS's internal design resembles OSes from the 60s more than it does modern systems. And anyway, who cares how old an architecture is? If they got it right 30 years ago, why replace it? Also, if you used a UNIX from the 70s, you'd notice significant differences from modern POSIX. Like only being able to run one process per user at a time. But even that's better than what RISC OS can do.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/3/08 9:57PM
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On Science Museum hosts 'fathers of Beeb' reunion:

Col1: Quite. Counting publishers is an entirely different metric to counting producers/studios.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/3/08 12:31PM
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On Science Museum hosts 'fathers of Beeb' reunion:

AW: I imagine we're still up there. Look at the Grand Theft Auto franchise by Rockstar, and the likes of Rareware, Lionshead, Spash Damage, Revolution, etc. I don't think we're outside the top 5, and I think it's likely we're still in the top three. The obvious top to are the US and Japan.

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On Google funding offered to NetSurf project:

AW: What are you trying to say? Most of the project ideas we've suggested for students to take up are platform-agnostic, and will benefit RISC OS and UNIX users alike. Would you rather we didn't take up their offers to work on NetSurf? Incidentally, I've compiled a document detailing gotchas that people who don't know about RISC OS may fall foul to, to help this: [link]

Additionally, we'll make sure that anything written by the students that should work under RISC OS works well.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/3/08 8:14PM
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On Google funding offered to NetSurf project:

lym: Most of the ideas we have have OS-agnostic. Only a handful are RISC OS or GTK-specific. Hopefully we can get students interested in the ideas and projects that'll benefit all users, RISC OS and GTK alike.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/3/08 9:33PM
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On A quick guide to fitting a new RiscPC hard disc:

druck: I'm referring specifically to drives used in RiscPCs, here. They pretty much ran at room temperature in original models. The hard drives in my PC these days, with fans blowing over them, are hot to the touch. In my NAS downstairs, it's actually mildly uncomfortable to handle the hard drives if they've been working in the past 5 minutes. Of course, it's still within their design tolerance and they're server-grade drives anyway.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/2/08 11:32AM
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On A quick guide to fitting a new RiscPC hard disc:

hzn: Indeed. While people celebrate the RiscPC case design, it's actually dreadfully thought-out inside (assuming it was thought about at all.) Other than the issue of the case being plastic and thus not acting as a heat sink (of course, originally this wasn't a problem, but modern hard discs kick out lots more heat, as well as new podules and CPU cards doing this), the things that annoyed me most was the faff you had to go to when you had more than one slice and you wanted to replace something, and the entire waste of the space above the CPUs in the extra slices.

Putting the hard drive in a podule bay, however, is an excellent idea. Although I would go to some effort to make sure it is secured in place by more than just gravity.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/2/08 5:39PM
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On A quick guide to fitting a new RiscPC hard disc:

druck: Stuff touches the disc all the time under RISC OS: Wimp$Scrap can get hammered when web browsing or doing lots of data transfer between apps, and that excludes things like fetching your mail and news, when compiling software, doing a clipart search, etc. Hard disc access under RISC OS isn't just limited to when you load an app or save a file.

Windows, of course, does thrash the disc, but that's because it's so enormous and bloated rather than actual algorithmic faults.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/2/08 3:10PM
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On A quick guide to fitting a new RiscPC hard disc:

arawnsley: I've always felt that, like banks, hard drive brands are very personal things. Some people hate brands that others love. Out of the hundreds of drives I've ever owned, only one has ever failed while actually in use. And it was 4 years old, so frankly fair-game. And it didn't die in a way that made all the data on it entirely unaccessable, so a backup of most of the data was easy.

However, I know people have hard drive failures monthly. I have no idea how they mistreat them. However, I've always kept lots of space between drives, and had plenty of cooling. I never put drives in plastic cases, only metal ones. I replace drives every three years, mainly because I need more space or faster access by then, rather than replacing them on reliablity grounds, of course.

RISC OS does put somewhat more strain on hard discs that other, more modern OSes, however, due to its lack of caches: read caches prevent the load on the drive for commonly-accessed stuff, and write caches allow you to intellegently order writes to the drive thus reducing how much work the drive has to do. Perhaps this is a situation ROOL can help with.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/2/08 1:09PM
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On RISC OS skills database website launches:

AMS: Of course, that assumes people with the skill set required are willing to work on ROOL's RISC OS, either because of the licence of other reasons. Obviously, just because somebody has signed up for an account on ROOL's site doesn't mean they're interested in contributing anything more than simple discussion.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/2/08 4:44PM
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On RISC OS skills database website launches:

druck: There's at least one important RISC OS project that's implemented in Ada, although I don't think Steffen is looking for help with it. :) I was surprised, as well as delighted, to see Lua there, though: my main problem was the axis of skill. Some of the things I felt I had a far better grasp of than "Novice" or "Understanding", and yet wasn't comfortable describing myself as Expert. Perhaps an "Experienced" level needs to be placed before Expert?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/2/08 11:22AM
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On A call to ARMs:

mripley: I must come clean. I have no intention of ever spending more than, say, 50 quid, on an Iyonix. And I most likely wouldn't run RISC OS on it. (Other than to act as a boot loader)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/1/08 11:00AM
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On A call to ARMs:

druck: Would I still be able to buy one in 5 years' time? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/1/08 10:11PM
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On A call to ARMs:

AW: I know Iyonixes are expensive, but does it really take five years to save up for one?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/1/08 8:14PM
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On A call to ARMs:

lym: I can only speak from personal experience, but it's certainly prohibitively expensive for me. Speaking to Aaron at the Christmas Show, he said they were unable to sell VRPC without a RISC OS licence, one assumes from ROL (although he refused to suggest why or confirm the ROL hypothesis) - so unless that changes, using the shared-source RISC OS with it's going to be just as expensive.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/1/08 2:08PM
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On A call to ARMs:

MikeCarter: Thing is, how are you going to attract students and hobbyists when RISC OS is so expensive to get into? Virtual RiscPC on its own is more expensive than either the Windows or Mac OS X you need to run it on. The only way you're going to attract people to play with it is to make it either /much/ cheaper to run, or free to run - and I doubt ROL, CTL or VA would be interested in losing what little revenue they get.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/1/08 1:09PM
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On A call to ARMs:

"It is probably impossible to over-state the gratitude that RISC OS computer owners have for a piece of software like NetSurf. However, unlike some users, I'm far from convinced of the wisdom of channeling all our resources into this application at the expense of wider innovation, experimentation and competition."

What nonsense. If you think that all of RISC OS's resources are being spent on NetSurf, then your platform of choice is even more doomed. You can count on the fingers of one hand regular RISC OS contributors to NetSurf. And Peter Naulls isn't one of them. Firefox is completely unsuitable for many of the machines people run NetSurf on, so unless people get their fingers out and buy A9s or Iyonixes, Firefox is a no go: and it's still painfully slow even on an Iyonix. I think NetSurf's much more usable than Firefox on RISC OS: even including the sites it cannot access. And we havn't asked for a penny off users: certainly not said "I've got this, you can have it if you give me a grand."

Other than that, I'm not entirely sure what this piece is meant to say: it has a few (mostly faulty) opinions thrown in, some vague history lesson, and no conclusions. Of one must go by the sub headline "Andrew Weston wonders how many brave developers RISC OS has left" then the answers are: There's more money elsewhere, the development tools are better elsewhere, the hardware and software is cheaper and commonly better elsewhere, they've grown up out of what these days is essentially a hobbyist system.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/1/08 10:44AM
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On January news in brief:

AW: Check their website: they're pretty good at keeping it up to date. If there's nothing new there, then no.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/1/08 9:34AM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

AW: Where do you get this stuff from?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/01/08 00:19AM
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On NetSurf progress reviewed:

hzn: Why would anybody want to do work on Phoenix? It'd be significantly less effort to implement the features it has that are worthwhile that NetSurf does not have in NetSurf, as well as not having any of your contributions placed under an obnoxious licence. Phoenix is so old-fashioned in its support for web standards, it'd take pretty much the same amount of time it's taken to get NetSurf where it is to bring it up to NetSurf's standard: surely that's wasted effort? Phoenix is a nice piece of interesting history, but I think it should be left in the history department.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/1/08 10:40AM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

AW: Except the hardware we have isn't primarily designed for RISC OS.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 12/01/08 06:58AM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

AW: It's a shame none of the current RISC OS hardware is an independent hardware platform then, isn't it?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/01/08 02:05AM
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On Maudlin over RISC OS:

Jess: You like low-energy hardware? Why? RISC OS isn't unique in running on low-energy hardware, and you won't save much given the premium RISC OS kit costs. If you're thinking about the environment rather than you pocket, then RISC OS is also a lose: the larger a manufacture run, the less the overhead and pollution. Additionally, your ugly idea of having another computer running apps RISC OS can't for you doesn't seem very energy-efficent!

Thin clients are a completely different kettle of fish. They don't tend to have much GUI of their own, they're for running remotely managed applications. Having a RISC OS desktop with Messenger, Zap, ArtWorks etc, then then having a big fat window with OpenOffice running in it doesn't sound nice to use at all - and it won't integrate nicely like CrossOver or WinRisc (if "nicely" is used very losely.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/1/08 10:32PM
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On Maudlin over RISC OS:

Jess: Why do you still use and champion RISC OS? It clearly can't be for the hardware, because vastly superior hardware in every way is available else where cheaper. It can't be for the cost, because it's also so expensive. And now it would appear that it isn't for the software or GUI, given your (almost repulsively hacky) idea would involve using software on a machine other than your RISC OS box, and with a non-RISC OS GUI. I'm confused.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/1/08 8:03PM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

timephoenix: Wasn't Cineroma meant to be open-source when it was finished? If its author has given up, there are worse things he could do than make what he's currently got available.

The issue for software, of course, is not money. It's developer time. What few there are don't have the time needed to implement everything the users want.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/1/08 12:02PM
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On Ditching desktops for portables: The way forward?:

The article says much that is true, and I agree with Jaffa's hobby assertion. However, I'd much sooner use Windows CE/PocketPC on a PDA or phone than RISC OS: the GUI is *far* superior for tiny screens - something flibble once elegantly pointed out using ArcEm once.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/1/08 8:18AM
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On Best of 2007 awards results:

Yay! While I of course hold more congratulations for NetSurf, we should pay tribute to all the nominee's efforts this year.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/12/07 12:32PM
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On December news in brief:

Rebecca: Infozip is more than able to compress application directories. How on earth were you calling it? Also look at UPP's tar and gzip tools, as they'll get you a better compression ratio than using the Zip format.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/12/07 4:10PM
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On NetSurf banner lost in post:

It has finally arrived! 3 weeks after it was posted first class! Yay! Go Royal Mail!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/12/07 11:02AM
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On A9home: two years on:

Nice balanced article. I'm still hit by many of the bugs in the A9's OS, but on average it's still a great machine. It's very convenient (I'm amazed exhibitors take RiscPCs or Iyonixes to shows, other than CTL, obviously), the performance is acceptable, it's quite, cute, and I love its industrial styling.

Given they've had over a year, I'm hoping an OS update will be forthcomming that will fix the few remaining issues - this may give A6 time to work on hardware upgrades or a replacement model!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/12/07 8:16AM
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On NetSurf banner lost in post:

Sadly the case. It shall be missed. :(

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/12/07 9:59PM
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On Christmas 2007 show this weekend:

The platform is certainly shrinking in terms of user base, but I suspect them dying off is only half the problem: I noticed a drastic drop in young people visiting the show compared to last year (the ratio of under 30s to over 60s is one that fascinates me). Excluding the younger of the exhibitors, I only really saw a handful of young people: one appeared to be dragged along by his grandfather and the thing he appeared most interested in was my ThinkPad, one was an ex-RISC OS user who had just come to see how the community was struggingly along, and there was a NetBSD developer who'd not been to a RISC OS show in years and just wanted to see if there was any new hardware worth porting NetBSD to.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/12/07 9:35PM
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On A9home DIY laptop: first pictures:

sa110: Well, it's clearly a non-standard case by that arguement because you've cut holes in it for the USB sockets :) I've certainly seen flight cases of similar proportions to it though, so there may be one on the market that wouldn't require such resizing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/12/07 3:17PM
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On A9home DIY laptop: first pictures:

cables: I suggested to Paul that he might want to talk to A6 and a metal basher to productise it - it might be fun.

On the A9 front, Paul Middleton said that work on the A9's port of RISC OS 6 was being done "as fast as we are able to", stopping short of actually saying when it would be available, or even if any work was actually currently being done on it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/12/07 12:34PM
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On A9home DIY laptop: first pictures:

AW: Hardly - what people said was impossible/incredibly unlikely was the production of a traditional, small-footprint laptop. Putting a desktop machine's motherboard in a suitcase is, while enterprising, hardly difficult, nor suitable for most uses.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/12/07 3:40PM
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On A9home DIY laptop: first pictures:

stevek: If you're after the rugged look, plenty of flight cases like the one Paul has used here are already available, and they tend to come in "standard" sizes.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/12/07 9:53AM
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On A9home DIY laptop: first pictures:

The show was fun, as they usually are - it's great to catch up and chat with people, even if there is the usual dose of politics and spin to deal with.

Paul's laptop's a fine achievement. With a little thought to a design, a metal basher could quite cheaply produce a "chassis" to put inside a flight case to securely fix the motherboard, battery and other support electronics, and you'd have a reasonably rugged sensible laptop. A little design polish, and it could be the product so many have been waiting years for.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/12/07 11:54PM
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On Christmas 2007 show this weekend:

It was indeed fun. A small show, much like last year's. But I find this makes it easier to get around and chat to people.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/12/07 8:28PM
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On Christmas 2007 show fully booked up:

Indeed - see you there!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/11/07 5:04PM
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On RISC OS camps to discuss future development:

Jess: Remember that ROL's fork includes many many enhancements to existing APIs as well as new APIs. They're less easy to emulate. (Alpha-channel sprites, for example.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/11/07 3:17PM
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On RISC OS camps to discuss future development:

jess: It's not as simple as that: in many cases where using IFR is perfectly valid and safe, it would be entirely unsafe to call out to command-line tools to handle it.

Plus, it would most likely be easier to just rewrite the decoders anyway: there are libraries out there that do most of the work for you already.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/11/07 10:39AM
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On RISC OS camps to discuss future development:

sa110: yes, sharing the APIs where they have not already incompatibly diverged is a good thing. sa110 and JGZ: But I see nothing in this that suggests anything more than that.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/11/07 8:08AM
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On RISC OS camps to discuss future development:

I'm sceptical - I don't see much in the way of ROOL and ROL agreeing to share source code, only to work towards having similar APIs. Doesn't this basically amount to a gentleman's agreement that ROL won't get p***ed if ROOL rip off their ImageFileRender APIs and similar? If so, all this means is that ROL won't get p***ed - and does anybody notice when they do?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/11/07 10:17PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

caliston2: The "bast" is a Simtec development board, based on the S3C2410 (see [link]) not an "ARM architecture". The only thing it shares with the Reciva module is the model of CPU (as you will be able to tell by looking at the BAST on Simtec's site.) Simtec may have been involved in initial concept or manufacturing, but the design is nothing to do with them.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/11/07 11:46PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

caliston: Looking at the "module" that goes into Reciva-enabled radios, it consists of a Samsung S3C2310 CPU, which is the model down from the A9's (and around 200MHz), and a single chip of flash and ROM. Other than using the same family of CPU, it does appear to be completely unrelated: it lacks serial, ethernet, audio DACs and ADCs, video, hard disc controller, PS/2, even a power switch. That's why it's 40 quid.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/11/07 10:02PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

caliston2: What makes you think Simtec have anything to do with it? I can't find any images of the the inside of a Reciva that looks even remotely like the Simtec eval board - infact most of them look like the type of designs Simtec would distance themselves from.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/11/07 9:44PM
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On Building a RISC OS laptop out of Lego:

stevek: You make it sound as if ROL have a strategy. Alas, it doesn't appear so. If they do, our ignorance of this fact is no doubt caused by their buttock-clenchingly poor PR.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/11/07 12:38PM
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On Christmas 2007 show fully booked up:

Myself and other members of the NetSurf team look forward to meeting you all! We'll be there answering the usual questions, and chatting with other exhibitors. While I don't have much direct involvement with the RISC OS branch of NetSurf, I always enjoy the social aspect of RISC OS shows.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/11/07 4:40PM
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On Could RISC OS teach Linux a trick or two?:

I think there's a confusion here: KDE is clearly a rip-off of Windows. GNOME less so: it's more similar to Mac OS. XFce's completely different.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/11/07 11:56AM
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On Archive magazine reviewed:

fylfot: Indeed - it's almost as if Jim's shift key is malfunctioning. I'm told the rest of the magazine does not suffer from such constant diminutive lettering, however. Perhaps this was a one-off. Also, don't be a stranger fylfot, you're sorely missed on IRC.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/10/07 7:35PM
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On South East 2007 show report:

epistaxsis: Now try a site that uses heavy use of CSS, like Slashdot. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/10/07 6:07PM
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On RISC OS 5 core source release imminent:

davehigton: You could do a similar hack to Clares' BDFS reasonably easily. It's basically a new FileCore file system that uses ADFS simply as a block driver using its sector read/write calls.

I'm still in favour of replacing all of ADFS, FileCore and FileSwitch completely, though. You still hit the strange limitations of 8 drives per file system, and such, even ignoring drive and file size limitations.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/10/07 6:49PM
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On RISC OS 5 core source release imminent:

Another good step, even if some of us still have reservations about the licence. I wonder when enough will be released that we'll be able to build RISC OS images ourselves?

nijinsky: I'm not a pro photographer, but a hobbyist. My camera spits out 10MP images in RAW format. They're huge. Of course, you'd be mad to process these on RISC OS. But there are still important things that you'd want to do on RISC OS that requires large files. DVD burning has already been mentioned. Others include large image file systems (large tarballs, zips, ISO images, DOSFS images etc).

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/10/07 6:47PM
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On Review: A9home v. Koolu:

Stoppers: Many UNIX/Linux applications available for x86 are available on ARMLinux. Many aren't. On the occations where the applications aren't hamstrung by the slowness of the CPU, porting them to RISC OS is a highly non-trivial task, due to the non-trivial nature of most appliactions and their build dependancies. Other applications can't be cross-compiled either. I wouldn't like to think how long OpenOffice might take to build even on an Iyonix, even if it were possible to do so. I suspect it might take longer to build than it takes OpenOffice.org to produce a new release.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/10/07 3:35PM
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On Review: A9home v. Koolu:

sa110: John has already said numerous times that he won't print anything negative, so it's difficult to provide balance and accuracy unless everything's hunkydory. (Just search usenet for evidence of his standpoint.) Everything *isn't* fine. Our community has many problems, and they won't get solved unless we acknowledge, face, and deal with them. Plus, I'd expect to get paid for my contributions. John has a history of not managing this, and RISC OS Now seems to be sleeping. That leaves Archive. The other issue is that how many software or hardware dealers are going to provide review samples if they know I'm going to say what I think? I *know* historically Acorn User had problems with this, which is why they mostly said everything was great.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/10/07 11:11AM
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On Review: A9home v. Koolu:

jc: I don't get nasty when people contradict me. I do however take a certain joy in pointing out your nonsense. In fact, your reply here, other than being slightly libellous, contradicts itself in at least two places. I find this deliciously ironic.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/10/07 10:20PM
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On Will new ARM mobile platform boost RISC OS?:

Hairy: For a start, Gnash is too slow on modern PCs, let alone RISC OS kit. Plus, it requires interested developers who have spare time. These are few and far between.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/10/07 5:39PM
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On Review: A9home v. Koolu:

MikeCarter: Some would say that it is all finished, and the only thing that's keeping this dead horse limping is over-enthusiatic everything-is-fine propaganda you see in the subscription RISC OS press. It's better to think things are worse than they are than better than they are.

When was the last time any of those magazines reviewed something and said "Actually, this isn't very good" ? Are we to believe that /all/ RISC OS software is superb and to the highest possible standard? That's not my experience.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/10/07 3:40PM
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On Review: A9home v. Koolu:

flibble: Precisely. I like Drobe for precisely this fact: It's honest. It doesn't say everything's fantastic when it isn't or if there are other better alternatives. Historically, the RISC OS printed press has just been propoganda saying everything's wonderful and hunkydory. This kind of falsehood doesn't help the community.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/10/07 1:06PM
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On Review: A9home v. Koolu:

druck: Those are woefully inaccurate. A much better way to test these devices is to plug them directly into a high-quality DC bench supply, as otherwise you're also testing the efficiency of the PSU, which isn't what you're interested in as it's a separate device that you can always replace with something better.

My A9 uses a little more than shown here (around 4-6W) when idling, but uses upwards of 10W when turning on while spinning the hard disc up.

Nice review, though. That koolu thing looks cool - idea for home servers and the like.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/10/07 10:56AM
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On Sell PCs without Windows urges think tank:

Jymbob: If you could buy a Mac mini without OS X to just run Linux on, why don't you buy one of the myriad of similar devices that are already cheaper? Or, to paraphrase Charlie Brooker from his hysterical article ( [link],,2006031,00.html - read the first comment, too), are you just after a rubbish aspirational ornament? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/9/07 10:59AM
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On Sell PCs without Windows urges think tank:

Jess: No, it isn't just for PowerPC.

Breaking licence conditions is precisely as bad as using pirated software. Neither are illegal, but both are copyright infringement.

I doubt making it illegal to *not* do business with people for non-race/sex/gender reasons in the EU will ever happen.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/9/07 10:54AM
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On Sell PCs without Windows urges think tank:

jess: Even if they didn't include it with machines, there's nothing stopping them putting licensing conditions in such that it can only be run on Apple's hardware.

Also, they already sell Mac OS X without hardware. People already have opportunity to make a "loader".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/9/07 10:33AM
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On Sell PCs without Windows urges think tank:

This may also make people who *want* Windows pay more, as if it isn't bundled, the cost of Windows will be more.

jess: Doubtful. Apple are a hardware company, not a software company - they're business is selling expensive ornaments that just happen to run OS X.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/9/07 10:08AM
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On Java and RISC OS:

Markee174: You're missing my point: My point is that use of Java is on the desktop is dwindling - I never said it had ceased to exist or be used. End users, who are pretty much the only market RISC OS has any chance of making any new inroads to, simply don't care about Java. Most don't even know it exists. However, they all use Flash much more and it's a much more serious hole in RISC OS's abilities. I say again, what Java is used for these days on the client is ultra-niche, and not at all useful for or on RISC OS.

Nobody has yet suggested here a way in which having an up-to-date and workable Java VM would help RISC OS is any noticeable way what-so-ever. "This web design application that'd never work on RISC OS anyway", "Oh, this specialist biology application only a handful of academics use" and "The next version of 250,000 quids worth of rampantly memory and CPU hungry electrical CAD software" do not count.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/09/07 8:20PM
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On Java and RISC OS:

dms: I'll stick with Pinnacle, then. In any case. you'd be mad to run such powerful and CPU-hungry CAD software on any RISC OS box, so it doesn't matter either way. Can anybody actually suggest anything written in Java that the average computer user actually wants, and more importantly, knows they want?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/9/07 7:29PM
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On Java and RISC OS:

dms: I've always used Eagle for small stuff, and Mentor Graphics for complex - both of which are C/C++. (In fact, Mentor's got a bundle of Perl and TCL in there, too) And if you think having access to some ultra-niche electronic design tools that will be unusably slow on any RISC OS box will somehow help the market, I'm not sure what drugs you're on!

markee174: B2B? What's that? Same goes for you, though: all counter-examples people have listed here about why Java is important are ultra-niche. Having them available won't help the platform move on or be more generally useful. I certainly don't see Adobe expending effort porting Dreamweaver or ColdFusion to RISC OS. Do you?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/9/07 6:00PM
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On Java and RISC OS:

lproven: I've not seriously used RISC OS in years, I use it as a toy hobby platform. Java is /not/ widely used in applications. OpenOffice's build system depends on it, and a handful of the more rarely-used features do, but in general the runtime does not - and you'd not want to natively build OpenOffice on RISC OS kit anyway - it'd take months. I've already mentioned the Eclipse IDE in this discussion, and suggested that running it along with the build tool chain tools in 512MB is going to be unpleasant - it's not the fastest piece of software on modern PCs. Windows doesn't come with Java by default these days, and most users don't notice. What they would notice missing much more is if Flash wasn't bundled.

Things RISC OS needs to make Java more sensible: An overhaul of the OS, including support for more memory, good solid support for threading, a file system that isn't an embarrassment, and hardware that isn't so slow. Now, I doubt many of those things are going to happen any time soon. Flash doesn't stress the system anywhere near as much, as well as being much more widely used. Without it, web browsing on RISC OS is almost a laughing stock.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/9/07 12:10PM
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On Java and RISC OS:

nijinsky: Unfortunately, most Java applications aren't going to run *anywhere* near as quick on an A9 as a PC costing half the price and only slightly larger. Infact, I imagine most modern Java applications will be painfully slow on either an A9 or an Iyonix. How quickly it boots isn't a problem for most users.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/9/07 4:19PM
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On Oregano 3 spotted on a RISC OS desktop:

CrazyRisc: Oddly, I can't imagine a web browser slower than O2. On the occasions I had the misfortune to use it, I'd quite often go to put the kettle on while it fetched mildly complex pages - and that's before we consider how slow and clunky its UI is. Could you provide some examples of where O2 is faster than NetSurf? If it really is, there's something we need to fix.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/9/07 6:08PM
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On Java and RISC OS:

All: RISC OS uses in business, as Steffen said, is minuscule. Throwing money to bring Java to RISC OS just for these users is insane. Also, most Java apps people might want to use are pretty memory hungry - I certainly wouldn't want to run Eclipse in 512MB of RAM!

There are always going to be niche areas that need Java. I don't think RISC OS's niche overlaps at all.

I stand by my point that Flash is infinitely more important.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/9/07 6:05PM
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On Java and RISC OS:

These days, Java's use on the desktop, both in applications and web applets, is dwindling. As far as web applets go, it's almost completely dead - Flash won that battle. Where Java is popular now is on servers, rather than clients. I can't remember the last time I needed/wanted to run a Java application on my PC. Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I *saw* one. Flash is much more important.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/9/07 10:35AM
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On News in brief:

hzn: The A9's hard disc is reasonably well cooled. It's a laptop drive, and they're designed to sit in very-hot-running laptops and blade servers, with little cooling. Also, the A9's case acts as one giant heat sink. The A9's case isn't air-tight, so it won't be a pressure problem, either.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 4/9/07 5:58PM
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On News in brief:

jess: I have no idea.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/07 2:41PM
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On News in brief:

I would be upset if UPP were integrated into RiscPkg as it currently stands, as it has some serious and annoying flaws currently.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/9/07 12:29PM
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On News in brief:

AW: The Iconbar's forums always seemed quite active to me, even if their forum software is hateful.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/9/07 5:39PM
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On News in brief:

I must have been very lucky: I've lost count of the number of times I've crashed my A9 while developing software for it, and I've never had any problems with mounting the file system afterwards, and only on two occasions did Dave's excellent DiscKnight find anything to fix.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/9/07 12:27PM
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On New Arculator and RPCEmu Mac ports released:

lproven: Apple's computers are shiny and expensive. The Iyonix is distinctly dull and expensive, certainly now it's such an old design.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/8/07 10:31PM
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On NetSurf 1.1 download available:

killermike: No. It's a bug I keep meaning to investigate (it doesn't occur on any of my machines.)

We have an Ubuntu package pre-built that we may put on the website - NetSurf 1.1 has gotten into Debian Sid and FreeBSD ports already.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/8/07 9:35AM
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On NetSurf 1.1 download available:

hzn: The first problem you mention is not a bug, it is by design. I don't personally agree with that design, so it'd be nice to have an option to switch between modes. (It's standard RISC OS behavior for the toggle button to only change change veritically if it already has enough horizontal space to display the document - try it in something like Publisher or TechWriter.)

The second option: I think I'd just prefer tabbed browing :) It means you don't get a dozen windows floating about, only one.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/8/07 8:44AM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

hzn: I don't think that would be nice. It'd involve reinventing thousands of wheels - ones that have already been perfected elsewhere. Writing "VRPC-OS" from scratch will yield a buggy and slow alternative. The use of a small Linux distribution (which one is used does not matter - the user wouldn't see it) has been a solution I've been advocating for years.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/08/07 4:38PM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

polas: VirtualRiscPC on modern PC hardware vastly outclasses any RiscPC, and gives an Iyonix a run for its money. I imagine VRPC now has the edge over the Iyonix. Without the overhead of a full and complex OS, this performance could only be increased.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/08/07 11:01AM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

sa110: This thread is going dangerously off-topic. Do you really think an application that can play MP3s and play MPEG 1 and 2 video covers anywhere near as much as a media application that people want should? It's missing DivX, WMV, RealVideo, Flash Video, QuickTime, and dozens of other common formats. If people can already play everything they want to, why do they keep asking for media players? Why do you need to merge several applications into one? How does that make them more useful?

I don't think it's me talking the rubbish, here.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/8/07 9:47AM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

AW: Time, expertise, will-power, and a RISC OS box that's actually fast enough to play what people want to play.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/8/07 9:14PM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

druck: My understanding is that it's not pin compatible, and not entirely software compatible (although I don't know if RISC OS uses the features for which there are differences.) I agree with the doubt that the market isn't big enough to warrant creating an upgrade exclusively for RISC OS users.

However, I suspect if building a machine from scratch, it should be pretty easy* to build a machine that's 2x times faster than the Iyonix. The parts are available. What's missing is money, and unless Castle can find a client who wants such a device, I don't see it happening. And there isn't a big market for such motherboards even outside the RISC OS world. Advantage 6 have been sailing on the back of the embedded business: a large ATX board such as the Iyonix's doesn't fit in there.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/8/07 7:23PM
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On Samsung's 533MHz A9home CPU successor:

fwibbler: I doubt 512MB would be feasible due to the parts needed - you need to use very dense RAM as the CPU module is so tiny. Perhaps 256MB. I think if you look at it as a CPU and RAM upgrade, you could use the approximate prices of RiscPC upgrades as a guide. Say, perhaps the cost of a 710 upgrade and a 64MB SIMM? If you take the costs of back then, adjust for inflation, and apply Moore's law, you end up with a price around 150-200 quid. Give the list price for something very similar to what the A9 already has ([link]) is 115 quid, I don't think 150-200 quid would be unreasonable, given you'd need to also pay for work to be done to RISC OS to support the new CPU, as well as to send your A9 back to Advantage 6, as it is not user-serviceable.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 13/8/07 5:19PM
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On Qercus reviewed but renewed?:

... but have the production values (quality of layout, spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes, factual inaccuracies that could have been avoided if they'd passed articles passed somebody in authority on the subject to check etc) increased at all?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/7/07 8:18AM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

bucksboy: You tell me. It would take literally millions of pounds worth of effort and time to bring RISC OS up to that kind of level, and it would also cost compatibility with many old pieces of software.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/07/07 09:07AM
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On ROX founder: Why I brought RISC OS to Unix:

flibble: Complete what? :) Creating Debian packages can be a chore. Were you using any of the helper packages?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 10:07PM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

Jwoody: "Yes thats an option" All UNIXes work like that, then.

"Thought that was the same in RISC OS for shared libraries as in C shared library." No. RISC OS's SharedCLibrary is shared by all processes, and the share the same pointers to it. For example, if one program where to overwrite it to change it, all programs linked to it would suffer the change. Also, you can't have more than one version of the SCL loaded and in use at once.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/07/07 7:03PM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

jess: RISC OS has no support for memory mapping in terms of mmap() at all. Chris Williams has done some work on this, though. As did one of Dave Thomas's friends, but this was many years ago.

RISC OS's virtual memory is the most limited you can manage: in the basic sense, all it means is that logical memory addresses aren't used. For example, all WIMP programs appear at 0x8000, and they are swapped in and out by the WIMP/kernel on Wimp_Poll. With a good virtual memory system, applications can share code and data for almost free, leading to massive gains in memory efficiency. For example, look at all the programs that link to UnixLib: each program has its own copy. GCCSDK4 hopefully will help solve this problem with shared libraries. I don't know if the library gets loaded multiple times, once for each program using it, however. If this is the case, your only saving is disc space. In UNIX, the library is only loaded into memory once, but it is "mapped" into each program, so it looks like they've got their own copy, but they're actually sharing a single copy. This gives memory usage improvements, as well as improving performance as there's only one copy of the code that can go through the CPU's cache.

In summary: Virtual memory is good. Often, swap is good. The two aren't the same, and don't judge swap entirely on experiences from Windows. On UNIX, for example, the VM system will swap out data that's not been used in ages to disc, and then use the freed up memory for caching data from disc that you use often, thus actually increasing performance, not reducing it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 6:07PM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

Jwoody: Sorry, I'm still at a complete loss as to what you mean. Do you mean that I/O to block devices like hard drives are done in block sizes that are identical to the native page size of the machine?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 5:53PM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

Jwoody: You're confusing virtual memory with swap, too. Don't do that :)

I'm not sure what you mean about AIX. What does "I/O by paging" mean, and how is it different to "disk I/O" ? Do you mean that you can use a syscall called mmap() to load a file without actually loading it, and it is demand paged into memory? If so, all UNIX OSes do this bar a few exclusions that are designed to work on MMUless machines.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 5:47PM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

jess: PMT dramatically decreases effort required to write complex systems, as well as providing better reliability and often better throughput. Please don't confuse virtual memory and swap: Virtual memory is a higher-level concept, and swap is just one application of that. Virtual memory allows, amongst other things, create memory use efficiency by loading only one copy of data that is shared among numerous processes, as well as loading files into memory that are larger than physical memory.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 5:16PM
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On ROX founder: Why I brought RISC OS to Unix:

lproven: Debian/Ubuntu certainly ship with ROX Filer. Rather than creating a new distro, why not package the rest of the ROX Desktop, and create an Ubuntu derivative? Perhaps, Roxuntu? :) Also, it was not I that suggested the NeXT dock. Pre-Windows 95 also had features 1, 3 and 4 that you mention. Mac OS has always had 1 and 5. In my experience of early Mac OS, applications, configuration, shutdown, etc were in the Apple menu in edition to the Finder. This has changed somewhat in OS X. Most early X desktops had a pop-up menu that included apps and logout/shutdown options, just not attached to a button as to save space. I don't think we can credit any single OS for the design of either RISC OS's iconbar, or Windows's task bar. They all borrow ideas from other places. My point was that the idea was never unique to RISC OS, and Windows's implementation draws from many places, not just RISC OS, and includes many unique ideas. After all, RISC OS's GUI borrows ideas from all over the place - even fundamental things like drag-and-drop.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 5:06PM
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On RISC OS Open: One year on:

Jwoody: Linux on ARM is several magnitudes faster than RISC OS, due to the fact that it has a good, modern design. I suspect even if non-blocking I/O, good PMT and a virtual memory system were implemented, Linux would still have a noticeable edge. I remember fondly that RISC iX also made better use of the hardware than RISC OS, by using the interrupt prioritisation PIC on the backplane, that RISC OS just ignores.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 4:43PM
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On ROX founder: Why I brought RISC OS to Unix:

hEgelia: NeXTSTEP is but one example, yes. You're right in noting that versions of Windows pre-95 did basically have an iconbar, but it filled the whole screen and doubled as the pinboard.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 3:13PM
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On ROX founder: Why I brought RISC OS to Unix:

Good article. However, to think that Bill had much input to Windows 95's GUI at all is... naive :) (And anyway, the Start menu is clearly a rip-off from the Apple menu, and there are more functionally similar things to the task bar than RISC OS's iconbar with some UNIX X Window managers from around the same time RISC OS happened.)

I've long used ROX's filer outside its deskop, and love it. Continue to good work.

Jess: It should be reasonably easy to create a ROX live CD based on some of Ubuntu's work or similar. Certainly, you can get ROX working on Ubuntu's Live CD if you have enough RAM (as you need to install it into RAM).

GavinWraith: One assumes Gnome the RISC OS company, and not GNOME the modern desktop environment? I suspect running GNOME under RISC iX would be utterly painful. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/7/07 11:43AM
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On Select nets 1,000th subscriber:

druck: The issue is that lots of these new features that Iyonix users want depend either directly or indirectly on changes to the kernel - you can't provide them via the usual APIs.

It's still not clear to me why anybody would *want* the ROL userland "enhancements" - some of the kernel work is worthwhile, but most of the other stuff is ugly and of limited actual use.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/07/07 12:34AM
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On Select nets 1,000th subscriber:

stevef: Just because something is abstracted from the kernel does not mean it can be run on anything. Things in the most part have been abstracted by creating new interfaces, which RO5's kernel does not have.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/7/07 8:31PM
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On Select nets 1,000th subscriber:

hubersn: tbh, I'd have thought the ImageFile stack and the new sprite stuff would be much more complex than the WIMP upgrades. Quite a few things depend on new features in the kernel, where all that's happened for rounded buttons is the abstraction of the WIMP's icon drawing routines to an external module.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/7/07 6:25PM
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On Select nets 1,000th subscriber:

The reasons why the ROL applications can't be ported to RISC OS 5 have been stated time and time again: they rely on new features of the OS to provide their enhancements that CTL's RISC OS does not have.

In terms of porting an OS, nobody other than Castle has managed to write an on-the-metal OS for the Iyonix. Both Linux and NetBSD depend on RISC OS having already set stuff up. Castle need to provide documentation for their hardware to let other OS authors port their operating systems to the Iyonix. I don't spot any such details on their web site.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/7/07 1:20PM
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On Select nets 1,000th subscriber:

OwlArt: Well, being able to talk to a telephonist who says nobody's in at the moment strikes me as more "unavailable" than "declined", although one is easy emulated if you want to avoid reporters.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/7/07 10:20AM
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On Select nets 1,000th subscriber:

OwlArt: Or Drobe phoned and asked to speak to somebody to provide some comment, and they declined :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/7/07 9:36AM
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On Creating simple banners using RISC OS:

jc: I've tried, but I am unable to gleam meaning from your posting. WordArt as just as many things to fiddle and tweak as TextEffx/Insignia does. What precisely are you referring to? Please try not to be vague.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/7/07 1:02PM
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On Creating simple banners using RISC OS:

jc: TextEffx and WordArt are incomparable. The work in entirely different ways. One cannot say one is better than the other in such vague and general terms.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/7/07 11:21AM
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On Creating simple banners using RISC OS:

I still find such banners tacky on the whole, preferring simple plain titles. Microsoft WordArt does allow people with no taste to produce revolting documents with ease, but in a skilled user's hands it can also produce interesting things. But still, plain is better, IMO.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/7/07 4:01PM
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On Who wants LaTeX export in TechWriter?:

snapper: LaTeX is indeed a bunch of macros to make TeX easier to use. DVI is conceptually similar to PDF, and doesn't store the extra information needed to recreate editable documents.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/7/07 4:15PM
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On Who wants LaTeX export in TechWriter?:

wuerthne: Perhaps. I've found precisely the same issue with TechWriter in the past - it always seemed mystical and confusing to me, and I've tended to resort to using LaTeX or HTML to get stuff done rather than use it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 9/7/07 10:14AM
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On Who wants LaTeX export in TechWriter?:

martin: I'd object to your reply to Ginger - the whole point of LaTeX is for the author to not care about appearance or layout, only content. It manages that perfectly even when editing it with a text editor. It's certainly designed to be written by humans rather than software.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/7/07 2:59PM
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On Who wants LaTeX export in TechWriter?:

While LaTeX export would be nice, to be truly fantastic, it must be accompanied by LaTeX import. I know of at least two mathmos who considered buying RiscPCs purely to run TechWriter for its TeX functionality, backing out only when it became clear that it was export-only. Importing TeX would be tricky, but LaTeX should be perfectly doable in the most part, as documents tend to be more structured.

Anyway, doesn't Zap have a perfectly adequate LaTeX mode? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 8/7/07 1:51AM
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On June news in brief:

Charging 25 quid for a web server that has this gem in its manual is laughable: "It is our intention that Serviette will support version 1.1 of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)." There are others: "VirtualAcorn is not and never will be supported." "Serviette supports the GET method on both RISC OS 5.11 and RISC OS 6.06. Serviette supports the POST method on RISC OS 4.39 only. RISC OS 6.06 has yet to be tested."

I don't see anything there that you can't do with WebJames and have better performance. And the web search thingy is so dire to be useless, certainly not as good as a Google search with "RISC OS" in the query.

It's a shame she's appeared to make no effort to talk to anybody about it for input - things might have been better.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/6/07 12:42PM
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On June news in brief:

I'm trying to work out what purpose this Riscpedia serves. Any idea? Limiting searches per day to one is pretty useless - I searched for "NetSurf" and got nothing of use.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/6/07 11:55PM
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On NetSurf 1.0 is worth millions on paper:

rmac: We do not currently have any infrastructure to support non-in-person donations, but it is being considered.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/5/07 4:52PM
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On Wakefield 2007 show report:

Nice write-up. Although I caught the expansion of A9wai1 as "widescreen all-in-one" not "why all-in-one."

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/5/07 12:05PM
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On NetSurf 1.0 is worth millions on paper:

Thanks again to everybody who came to our stand at Wakefield and bought a CD!

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 28/5/07 11:57AM
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On Top apps in first ROS 5 source release:

Interesting goodies include Basic, the Filer, Draw, Edit, CDFS, and the Browse support modules. Interestingly, there's no click-through licence to accept to even pretend might be binding.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 19/5/07 1:07AM
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On Castle reveal shared source licence:

"intended for commercial sale" is the funniest bit.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/5/07 11:02PM
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On Messenger Pro 5 released:

arawnsley: While your aim is noble, there does appear to be a demo version of Gemini, the Windows version available. One assumes if somebody bought a copy and didn't like it, they could return it for a full refund? I don't think I've seen that made clear.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 17/5/07 9:10PM
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On Multi-page ArtWorks 2.7 now available:

arawnsley: My posting was not meant in the tone people appear to have read it as. It was meant as a serious question as I am slightly out of touch - ArtWorks is often considered a cornerstone of RISC OS applications, and I was wondering what R-Comp offered that was to a similar level of universal love. This wasn't directly meant as a criticism of your products.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/5/07 11:49PM
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On Multi-page ArtWorks 2.7 now available:

VirtualAcorn: I don't think UniPrint is anywhere near as universally enjoyed or important as ArtWorks, and (while I've never used it, I have used its free predecessor) I routinely hear how unpleasant Messenger Pro is when sat next to Pluto (which I've also never used.)

Perhaps R-Comp need to do a little marketing if their products are that delightful.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/5/07 6:59PM
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On Multi-page ArtWorks 2.7 now available:

epistaxsis: What have R-Comp produced that is as universally enjoyed, important and respected as ArtWorks?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 16/5/07 6:48PM
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On Wakefield 2007 is this Saturday:

There is a bar though, which I'm sure will be much more enjoyable than presentations of past.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/07 11:46PM
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On May news in brief:

Cor, I didn't know Philip Hazel wrote stuff for RISC OS. He's also the author of the excellent Exim MTA/SMTP server, and libpcre, a library for providing Perl-compatible regular expressions. You learn something every day.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 14/5/07 5:29PM
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On ROL ship second Select 4 release:

While the conversion to 32 bit-safe code is a worthy feature, we're still left with only a 26 bit one available. One assumes Advantage 6 will make a version of Select 4 available for their customers later.

For users of RiscPCs, there doesn't actually appear to be all that much new here, certainly from a user-facing perspective. Can we look forward to one of Drobe's famed comparison articles detailing what's actually different that'll make users' lives easier?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/4/07 10:42PM
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On The houses that RISC OS built:

harmsy: Only "as good" ?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/4/07 7:47PM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Malcolm Ripley: Just to clear stuff up, AmigaOS 4 wasn't produced by Amiga, and the only hardware that it runs on went out of production shortly before its release. RISC OS (note the goddamn typesetting! :) could easily have DivX, MPEG4, DVD playback etc, if it were not throttled by incredibly slow CPUs.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/04/07 09:43AM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

Bob Hartley: What you suggest sounds a lot like Genesis, if anybody remembers that. Like Hypercard and such. Sure, it might be fun to have, but it doesn't actually solve any problems people want solving: like having Flash, Java, and a fully-featured modern web browser.

C++ is not a language to learn as a hobbyist amateur.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/04/07 11:42AM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

IME, which is reasonably extensive in this area, work produced by asian out-sourcing companies is almost comically bad. Only it isn't comical when you have to deal with it. None of their programmers ever seem to know anything about the environment they're writing for so you end up getting loads of very simple newbie questions appearing from them on mailing lists and usenet and IRC asking for people to write the code for them, and what you tend to get is laughably badly written code with so many obvious flaws that it'll never be maintainable, and often won't even be buildable.

Frankly, it's a no-go.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/04/07 09:54AM
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On ARM 'security hole' is ofla cousin:

adrianl: Yes, that's true, and a fine argument for using devices that use Linux verses VxWorks or some home-grown OS. (And assume they don't use uCLinux which is a pain and I can't think of any networking appliances that use it.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/07 1:37PM
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On ARM 'security hole' is ofla cousin:

druck: As it is on Linux, which is one of the most common OSes to run on routers and embedded networking devices. You choose precisely the right word when describing this as "bull".

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/07 12:07PM
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On ARM 'security hole' is ofla cousin:

One should note that many "home" routers are actually MIPS based (all NetGear, Linksys and D-Link ones certainly, plus many others, like Motorola) and so won't be effected by this. It's also a big of a silly thing to make a song and dance about. You need to be running in supervisor mode to write to these "vectors" at address zero anyway, and thus there is much more mischief you can get up to. The only difference is that 0 is a slightly easier pointer to corrupt through. The solution of course is to use high vectors - where the vectors start half-way up in memory rather than at the bottom of it.

This is a non-issue bought up by a security company to help sell their products.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/4/07 12:00AM
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On Oregano 3 scrapped:

mrmac: I seem to recall that a 6-figure sum was being suggested. Remember, it's likely that there's a flat fee for Oregan to do the work, and then most likely a commission. Obviously I'm bias, but if the RISC OS community could raise that sort of cash, I'd suggest it would be better donated to the NetSurf project - with that kind of money we might even be able to have some people work on it full-time.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/4/07 11:45AM
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On Could NetSurf 2.0 support JavaScript?:

polas: John-Mark's document describes the dependencies involved in introducing JavaScript, and suggests a time-scale.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 3/4/07 1:08PM
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On File sharing Bit Torrent client ported to RISC OS:

blahsnr: "No, you cannot upload 'copywrite' material without permission of the author." I think that's what I just said, except with much less detail. Infringing copyright by obtaining copies is a civil matter - the copyright owner has to sue you. Distributing copyrighted material without permission is what copyright owners like to call "piracy", and the state will prosecute you.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/4/07 11:50AM
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On File sharing Bit Torrent client ported to RISC OS:

EasyKees: So what you're saying is that it's entirely illegal to upload anything at all, even if you are the author or you have permission from the author?

Or do you actually mean that the state will not prosecute you for obtaining copyrighted material that you should have paid for using some less than legitimate means, but the state will prosecute you if you upload it? If so, the situation is identical in the UK - even if FACT say otherwise. It is a civil mater if you obtain "illegal copies" and the copyright holder must sue you. The government only gets involved if you're redistributing copies.

This is completely different from it being illegal to upload copyrighted material, which would make all sorts of perfectly legitimate things illegal, like uploading your own web site to your web space.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/3/07 9:25PM
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On File sharing Bit Torrent client ported to RISC OS:

Given all content is copyrighted already, I suspect the real law is somewhat more complex and precise.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/3/07 8:35PM
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On File sharing Bit Torrent client ported to RISC OS:

Most ISPs only throttle downstream bandwidth consumption, and don't take any account of upstream consumption - thus using BitTorrent to download a file is only very slightly more costly to your quota than just using HTTP, and also means people like ROOL don't get stung with enormous bandwidth bills - so this is good news.

I'm interested to see how well it functions with RISC OS's very low maximum number of open sockets. I've downloaded things in the past that have had three times the number of connections open than RISC OS has sockets total.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/3/07 10:31PM
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On Vigay: I was told to remove my Firefox 2 tutorial:

I amazed OpenBSD continues to exist with such a caustic character at the helm - let us hope some RISC OS personalities don't get similar delusions of grandeur, and consider themselves vastly more important than they are, and have people believe them.

Oh. That's already happened.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/03/07 4:36PM
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On Vigay: I was told to remove my Firefox 2 tutorial:

Peter is required to release his patches under the licence which Firefox is distributed. However, what he's said basically boils down to if anybody he considers unworthy demands the patches, he'll give them the patches, and then walk away from the project.

Why/how anybody tolerates this man is beyond me.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/03/07 12:18AM
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On Vigay: I was told to remove my Firefox 2 tutorial:

flibble: I know you love a bit of S&M like the next developer ;-)

(Or was that M&S? I can never remember.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/03/07 11:23PM
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On South West show reports and photos:

Gah gah gah! IT BURNS MY EYES. Richard, get an editor.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 04/03/07 1:11PM
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On South West show reports and photos:

Whenever I see the cog logo, I see a bad copy of the KDE logo. A shame.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 02/03/07 12:29AM
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On Wakefield 2007 to take place in May:

Woo! A pub. I look forward to the show.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/2/07 1:13AM
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On NetSurf halts punter's search for love:

Or even the *NetSurf* team. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/2/07 12:45PM
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On How to port RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC:

timephoenix: I don't know if you've noticed, but RO6 is a) buggy, b) not available, c) in a questionable state of development. Don't you think it's better to put your bets on the I' OS that it is more likely to receive development, bug fixes, etc? I've already suggested why you might want to have RO5 available to RiscPC users, as well as other people's comments such as more developers for ROOL, and legal free emulators (like RPCemu).

ROL will never release their source code. PM's likely already made that decision, and won't back down on it - it's the only asset they have. Giving it up would mean giving up. The most sensible thing for ROL to do is, err, to do *something*.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/1/07 9:04AM
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On How to port RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC:

Porting RISC OS 5 to the RiscPC give people who still rely on their old computers (either because of specific software and/or podules, or who can't afford a more modern machine) means that these people will be able to get an up-to-date OS even if ROL go bangsplat. It opens the RiscPC OS market to competition. This can only be a good thing.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/1/07 11:00PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

Steve: Perhaps, but there are dozens of other common non-standard features that Norcroft and GCC implement differently that may be littered across the source tree. One other example is pure/const functions, so the fundlemental problem still exists. (That patches to make RISC OS buildable with either GCC or Norcroft may well end up with an ugly nasty sticky mess of a source tree.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/01/07 8:12PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

Julian: The problem with making it compiler-neutral is it'll involve a lot of duplicated code, which isn't good. I'm not sure if the CTL inline-assembler syntax is mechanically convertible to the GCC one, but that might be one solution (preprocess source as part of the build system.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 30/01/07 2:23PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

adh: One assumes that the source makes use of Norcroft-specific features. Didn't Steve say that it made use of the Tematic inline-assembler features? It'd be tricky to adapt these to work with GCC, and get accepted back into ROOL's repository.

Also, the toolchain is still massively overpriced, even if it is a lot cheaper than it used to be.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/01/07 10:19PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

druck: "In embedded software development, charging for tool chains is the norm" As flibble says, err, no. The vast majority of independant ARM dev is done with GCC, MIPS's offical compiler is free (and also GCC-based), as are the official compilers for PPC and even SPARC are also freely available. Sure, you can go and give Greenhills or ARM an enourmous sum of money, but why bother? I've only heard bad things about them :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/01/07 7:15PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

I can't be faffed to type all that again.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/01/07 6:50PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

(nt)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/01/07 6:26PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

lproven: It's true that for the most part OS vendors have given away basic development chains, as it makes more software available for their OS, and only charge for "enterprise" development features. You're right that it's laughable that Norcroft still costs money, but I don't believe it's ROOL or CTL's choice to make.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/1/07 4:15PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

Aasm's source has been lost? Good riddence. :)

Loris: I'm sure Adrian knows what he's talking about ;)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 27/1/07 12:50PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

johnpettigrew: I read CJE's spam as it costing 105 quid with the manuals.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 26/1/07 3:12PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

CJE: I couldn't disagree more. Well, certainly I hold plenty of free software in enourmously high esteem. And that which costs us a lot might well just be ripping us off. :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 25/1/07 2:21PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

chrisevans: If it turns out that CTL is going to start selling their toolchain for a tenner, will you follow suit? :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/1/07 5:21PM
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On Programming tools set for price slash:

The current high price is more than the cost of a fast x86 box to run GCCSDK on. :) Nice to see, although I'll wait for actual pricing information before I commit to purchase.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/1/07 11:54PM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

AMS: The problem is that 1.2GHz IOPs are still going to be much more expensive and not a touch on x86 or even PPC in terms of performance, and require somebody to actually design a motherboard using it still. Plus, RISC OS cannot take advantage of multiple CPU cores anyway.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 23/01/07 2:04PM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

AW: I can't decide if you're pointlessly trolling, or if you actually believe that. It won't reduce RISC OS to an emulation "toy" at all. It'll simply speed things up where it is emulated. It won't damage native use at all, apart from the fact that emulation will be even quicker and cheaper, not to mention less buggy, as you'll suddenly be able to use UNIX's and Windows's far more advanced debugging facilities.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 21/1/07 12:18AM
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On Castle and ROS Open reveal plans for 2007:

Until we actually *SEE* even a draft of the licence, we can't say how the limitation on porting effects it. I think it's foolish, anyway - if somebody wants to try, let them. It'll be their wasted effort. However, parts of the OS that are written in C could be almost automatically rebuilt for x86 with the right rig in order to massively speed up emulation. For example, the SharedCLibrary could be executed on the host side. Same with lots of other modules that are written in C. Stopping people from porting it away from ARM removes the possibility of somebody doing this neat hack to considerably increase emulation performance.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 20/1/07 11:20PM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

All your (nt) belong to us.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 18/01/07 4:43PM
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On RISC OS Open licence in hands of lawyers:

There are good reasons to run a 32 bit OS on a RiscPC, as well as bad, but people never seem to mention them. It would also be possible (although quite a bit of work) to create a 32 bit OS that can also run 26 bit applications. (In much the same way Windows XP is 32 bit, but can run 16 bit applications, or the way Linux on an AMD64 can run 64 bit or 32 bit binaries.)

Advantages: You get to fix many of the problems that only exist in 26 bit modes (for example, shared libraries suddenly become possible), aids developers in knowing that 26 bit things are a thing of the past, even if a specific user cannot afford to upgrade their hardware, single branch of the OS to develop, instead of two, etc. Disadvantages: You may have to pay for upgrades to your 26 bit software to make them 32 bit. Also, some software might just be completely unavailable, but most Iyonix and A9 Home users seem to cope anyway.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 15/1/07 2:01PM
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On Playing with prime numbers on RISC OS:

This year's Christmas Lectures are available on DVD at the cost of the P&P if you order them from the Royal Institution's website, if you missed any of them.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/1/07 11:56PM
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On The best of the Microdigital Mico manual:

I love it. It's almost as if they contracted out the writing of the manual to some far-eastern company who had no staff that spoke English, and who had never heard of RISC OS. Reminds me of the "light of nursing eyesight" we have. Guess what it is.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 6/1/07 7:07PM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

AW: I'm sure you do. But the RiscPC is still a hopelessly bad architecture in terms of speed of access to hardware etc, even if the Kinetic does provide marginally faster memory. It also has small caches. I don't understand how people can cope running Firefox on an Iyonix - it's unusably slow. Running it on a RiscPC would just be insane. It's not as if replacements for the RiscPC with a far superior architecture havn't been available for a while, now.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 02/01/07 12:57AM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

Strictly speaking, Peter has to already provide his patched sources to other people. coling: Nobody's suggesting otherwise.

Firefox is a slow piece of software. Even on fast PC's, it's a little unresponsive. Frankly, I'm surprised anybody thinks it's usable on an Iyonix, but it'd be simply too much pain to run it on a RiscPC.

AW: No, only one small problem with the RiscPC architecture was solved by the Kinetic - all the others remained.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 2/1/07 12:40AM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

jess: A marginal, but possibly noticable one, yes - half-word (16 bit) loads and stores from memory are frequently of use in things like image decoders and such, and these are the instructions that do not work on RiscPC-class machines. (Less to do with the CPU, and more to do with the IOMD chipset on the motherboard.) StrongARMs can do them if the data is already in the cache, and Kinetics can do them if the data's on the on-board fast RAM.

In any case, Peter's refusal to say why he had decided to make it Iyonix-only in the first instance, when there is demonstratably no technical reason is the own-goal - and the nominations and the vast majority of the voting occured before he did release an A9 Home version. And we don't yet know if the only reason he made his second reason A9 Home-friendly is because we'd got his old one working anyway. He's been completely silent on the matter.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/1/07 3:49PM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

AMS: Yes, tuning for XScale may have given a tiny advantage, possibly more than using XScale-specific instructions. The reason he was nominated for own goal is that he will have known full well that a) using XScale instructions would have made a trivial and unnoticable difference, b) that this would stop it working on other machines, c) somebody got it to work anyway, without his help. Seems completely reasonable to me.

TonyStill: The more features of the compiler you use, the more difficult it is to discover if the bug is in your code, or in the compiler's. Which is why most software is developed with -O0 and only built with more optimisations later. Using certain optimisations and compiler features can also make it impossible to debug the software.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/1/07 2:32PM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

AMS: You demonstrate your lack of talent in this respect with your suggestions. Simply reordering/tuning/scheduling instructions to optimise for XScale does not render the code unable to execute on other CPUs. The only thing that does (and is what The Chox did) is to specifically ask the compiler to use instructions that only the XScale has. Why go to extra effort to make it more likely that bugs will occur at the same time as making it more difficult to debug, and limiting the number of users who can test it? Peter knows better than this, and also knows that there was no good technical reason to do so. So we're still left guessing as to why he chose to do it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 1/1/07 1:47AM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

TonyStill: The Chox highly advocates actually testing to see if things are faster or not - or at least he certainly does when somebody else tries to demonstrate something. As I had previously said, making GCC emit XScale-only instructions a) is more effort, and b) saves less than a thousandth of a second on the Iyonix. Premature optimisating is very very bad, and The Chox knows this. The more heavily you optimise, the more difficult it is to track down bugs.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/12/06 7:35PM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

AW: There was zero reason for The Chox to make his initial FF2 port Iyonix-only from a technical point of view. Infact, it was *more* work for him (if only marginally) to make it Iyonix-only. He clearly wanted, for his own reasons, to stop Omega and A9Home users using his FF2 port. It has nothing to do with there being "more" Iyonixes. Given his absolute refusal to explain himself, we are left only able to assume he did this out of spite. Given that I then managed to get it running on the A9Home, easily as fast as it appeared to run on the Iyonix, without his assistance and emulating the Iyonix's CPU to an extent, it seems very much like an own-goal - we just don't know what he was trying to achieve - only that it was stopped.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/12/06 5:35PM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

AW: The Chox's FF2 port was made Iyonix-only for non-technical reasons. Read into that what you will.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/12/06 4:58PM
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On Best of 2006 awards results:

Woo! NetSurf wins! At least! Congratulations to the winners, and condolences to the not-quite-winners. It'd be interesting to see by what margins everyone one/lost - ie, how many votes are there between JC's and The Chox's home goal prize?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 31/12/06 2:38PM
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On Cino DVD player released for free:

BrianH: As discussed on the previous Drobe article talking about AppAcc, no - it's much to narrow in use to be useful for most things, and as Adrian said himself, it's faster to not copy data around than it is to copy it.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 29/12/06 12:26AM
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On Merry Christmas:

Chris's task is certainly a difficult one, as he's essentially the only person who does what he does - and some of the more well-known faces in our community seem to forget this when they give him a hard time. The loss of drobe would be a loss for the community as a whole. Keep up the good work, including keeping druck distracted with tarty pictures :)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 24/12/06 3:02PM
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On Iyonix software speed boost driver released:

AMS: I'm not sure why you think malloc() could be improved by this - I assume you mean memcpy() ? What I meant by my post is to clarify to some people that this won't suddenly make their computer go 5 times faster. It might make a small improvement to a handful of applications in very rare circumstances - it's relatively rare that you'd ever want to copy around large amounts of memory on desktop machines.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/12/06 9:47PM
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On Iyonix software speed boost driver released:

The Application Accelerator provides functions that help greatly in doing RAID. This is not surprising, given being the controller on a RAID card is what the IOP321 is designed to do. Running general purpose code is not what it is designed to do - as such, any possible applications for it will be quite narrow.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 22/12/06 8:23PM
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On Messenger Pro 4.23 does HTML email, Unicode:

VinceH: Speed of generated code, flexibility, cheapness of upgrades, and if you've got a Unix or Windows box to hand, massively faster compilation. The only advantage that Norcroft has these days is its speed of compilation, and the pretty icons.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/12/06 8:06PM
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On Messenger Pro 4.23 does HTML email, Unicode:

coling: Ah, but availability was the concern you at first raised :) I'm surprised people still use Acorn/Castle C/C++, tbh.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 11/12/06 11:44AM
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On Messenger Pro 4.23 does HTML email, Unicode:

coling: Why not just link to OpenSSL directly? NetSurf already does this.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/12/06 11:55PM
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On Could open source RISC OS bring back users?:

What would bring me back is not the open-sourcing, but some actual signs of worthwhile development. (Which of course, the shared-sourcing of it may bring.) From a user's point of view, there isn't a lot in RISC OS Select that's all that useful for me, nor in RISC OS 5, which has even less new. It still looks as dated as it did in 1995, and still has problems with randomly crashing from time to time. It's a shame :-/

The hideous price of most RISC OS kit is pretty off-putting, too. Especially when designs are 4 years old.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 10/12/06 2:27PM
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On Firefox 2 patched for the A9home:

Also, can either of you try [link] instead?

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/12/06 8:25PM
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On Firefox 2 patched for the A9home:

nervus: CKH2: I suspect these errors might be due to you not having at least 32MB of memory free before you try running it. Firefox 2 requires a 20MB WIMP slot - it may be that *WimpSlot cannot allocate that much memory. Other than trying to quit all other applications and such before trying to run Firefox 2, I don't know what to suggest. "It works for me" etc.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 7/12/06 7:44PM
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On Midlands 2006 show photos and news:

It was the first show I've been to that had a bar since Epsom. Excellent choice of location :) I'd like to thank everybody who came up to the NetSurf stand and offered their support and thanks, as well as all the other exhibitors, which it was good to chat to. My special thanks to Advantage 6 for lending us an A9 Home to demonstrate NetSurf. (My old and tatty 40MHz RiscPC isn't all that good for doing demos...)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/12/06 11:03AM
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On RPCEmu updated to run RISC OS 6:

My understanding is that the RISC OS 6 Preview works just fine on earlier versions of VirtualRiscPC, just as long as you don't use the installer, and install it manually by decompressing the contents of the Zip files within it into the right place. I have not personally tested it, but I've heard of at least two others who have had success by doing this.

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/12/06 12:42AM
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On Firefox 2 patched for the A9home:

AW, maikl: No, this patch will not work on earlier machines. For reasons druck has already outlined, those machines are missing even more instructions, and in the case of the RiscPC, does implement two instructions, but they don't work reliably. (The same may be true for the Omega, I don't know.)

highlandcattle: It's not offical. At all. I have nothing to do with the Firefox/Mozilla project, and I am not involved in Peter's efforts to port Firefox to RISC OS. Just because it's open source does not mean that it's "official".

nervus: Make sure that you have unzipped the new firefox-bin file from the Zip file, change its filetype to Absolute (or ff8) if it isn't already, and then copy it over the original in your !Firefox directory. Then double-click on !Firefox, having first run the v5Emulator module.

sa110: I've just downloaded Minidisc, and hacked it to work on the A9 Home I have here (it tries to load CallASWI when it really doesn't need to). Both with it seen by the Filer, and with it running, Firefox still works for me. (Downloaded the lastest version available from minidisc.iconbar.com this evening.)

 is a RISC OS Userrjek on 5/12/06 12:39AM
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