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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

If they couldn't agree I'd just take it off them. I should know adults are just kids who've been around for few years. The posts I read here were not written by "grown-ups".

I've supported RISC OS for years - despite ridicule from just about everyone around me. This however is just too depressing. I'm removing my drobe feed til after christmas.

I'll see if they've sorted things out by then.

Good work guys - you've lost /another/ customer, not that many to go!

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 11/12/08 5:09PM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

I love RISC OS but if it is in the the hands of the sort of people who post comments like this...

I don't really know what to say. I'm a teacher and work with children. If it were them arguing I'd take them to one side and give them a talk about how arguing just makes everyone upset - if you both pull on a toy then it breaks and everyone is sad.

:-(

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 11/12/08 3:39PM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

Well said.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 10/12/08 1:08PM
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On New RISC OS ownership claim may derail ROOL RiscPC ROM release:

ROL's existence depends on the strength of a dwindling community of enthusiasts. Disputes such as this drive people away and destroy that community.

ROL may well find itself in full control of the product, but with precisely no-one to sell it to.

Looking at this statement I think I can see the overarching ROL strategy. For those interested see here: [link]

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 10/12/08 10:39AM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

That does sound ideal. I'd be interested to know how that progresses.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 19/11/08 10:35PM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

"rpc emu (quite rightly) runs in a window... "

Doesn't it have a full screen mode?

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 19/11/08 2:48PM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

Cool - looking forward to that icon :-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 19/11/08 11:00AM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

That wasn't my intention at all. What I meant was that if my understanding of the technical side of things is correct then having such a package to place on a USB would make life easier for those who don't want to remove or damage the host OS.

Helpful said he ended up leaving at midnight because he couldn't get the emulator to work with Xandros. I like Xandros and don't want to switch to Ubuntu.

It hardly surprised me, my experience with Linux is that 2 out of three apps just won't install because they need something I don't understand or can't find. I've used Mandriva, Suse and flavors of Ubuntu

Wouldn't it have been easier if all Helpful had to do was plug in a USB and turn the computer on?

Perhaps there is an easier way of achieving this - if so please share :-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 19/11/08 6:12AM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

I have to say Xandros on my eeepc is the first OS which has simply worked since I bought my RPC ten years ago. As a result I am super cautious about mucking it up.

As is probably obvious I'm a total non-techie (yes there's still one non-coder RISC OS user left), so if you want to avoid my naive ramblings please skip this post.

diotest mentioned the possibility of RPCEm being packaged with a distro. Now my experience of installing Linux is that it is never as simple as it is made out to be. However I have heard about Linux distros that boot direct from a USB key. I'm told that these automatically recognise most standard hardware and boot with the added bonus of having your favorite apps preinstalled. A recent OS news article ([link]) implied that Ubuntu has made this easier.

OK you can guess where this is going - now smash my naive schemes: Why could someone with the knowhow not create such an install, with the relevant libraries etc. designed to boot into an emulated RISC OS environment and then make it available for others to download to their USB discs?

Converting a computer to a RPC would then be as simple as booting from a USB.

It'd be great for showing off RISC OS too - try before you buy.

I understand that it would have to be distributed sans-ROMs but I don't see why that should be too much of a problem.

I'm sure there are many other problems, but I thought I'd share this as an idea. It's worth a shot in the dark.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 18/11/08 7:00PM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

Being packaged with a Linux distro? Ooooohhh yes please!

I've got to wait for Christmas before I can get to my RPC to rip the ROMs- how will I wait that long?

I'm running the default Xandros. While I don't mind typing into a terminal I admit to not understanding 90% of what it hurls back at me.

I must say the wiki didn't look too complicated until it got to the networking at which point I got a bit lost. The really confusing bit was where you had two options on how to run it with superuser privilege - type sudo to start it each time or err... maybe I'll stick with sudo.

One of the great things about a genuine RPC is that it's very hard to damage unless you try to reprogram it with a pickaxe.

Just so I don't break anything I think I'll be enlisting the aid of my Linux-speaking friend. :-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 17/11/08 10:02PM
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On EeePCs and RPCEmu at ROUGOL:

Really wish I could be there - but I'm 1000 miles away tapping on my EeePC.

As you might guess I'm really keen to hear more info on that demonstration!

Hope you lucky Londoners have a great time :-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 17/11/08 9:30PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Oh yeah!

Now Drobe's really back in town!

:-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 17/11/08 9:26PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

The Windows interface is a pile of pants and I've been forced to use it since version 3.1 and never seen anything to make me think otherwise. That said the new icon...err...taskbar looks a tad familiar, though still not good enough.

People do seem to have realised that having high stats in your computer isn't the whole picture - interface is also important. More and more people now know that there is an alternative to Windows - Mac and even Linux are at least "heard of".

The rise of netbooks is broadening peoples minds. Thanks to the EeePC my mother and girlfriend are both now using Linux - You don't know how stunned I am. These are people who panic if you change the theme on Windows from blue to silver.

I showed my girlfriend a photo of RISC OS emulated on the EeePC. She thought it looked cool and would like to try it out. Miracles happen. (Got to get those ROMs!)

With the reduction in price of computers that just a few years ago would have been considered powerhouses we have more flexibility. Combmine that with colaborative projects over the net and high speed internet....

Hey...that glass is looking fuller by the minute!

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 15/11/08 9:34PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

That was supposed to be "totally agree".

Downside of a simple interface - no preview or editing of posts.

Still, Drobe now seems to run like a hornet on speed compared to it's former "dazed donkey" performance so things are looking up.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 14/11/08 10:34PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Hey I've been almost totally silent for what I guess is around a decade, even though Drobe's been pretty much my first port of call the moment I logged on over all that time. I suppose the lack of Drobe made me realise how much I missed it.

I totally with everything Gulli said (aside from the mouth bit ;-). I too appreciate the clear and simple design. Though I would put a dash of colour in the banner on my Christmas list.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 14/11/08 10:28PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

OK but after 6 months of Drobe being pretty but silent - this is an improvement.

Offsite links - hey, they let us know something is happening. Better than a dead feed. If we (the fans) want more articles, then we'd better start typing.

Drobe is a free service provided as a favor to us lot and beggars can't be choosers.

Any time there is any development or change in the RISC OS scene there is a massive argument.

How many times have you seen someone, who put tons of effort into this fan-based community, leaving citing "comments" as one of their reasons?

There aren't many of us left.

Come on - Let's just thank Chris for being one of the lifelines of the platform and phrase any requests as just that.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 13/11/08 6:18AM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

Me too.

Sure I'm not a fan of grey...but hey - in the case of Drobe: No news is definitely NOT good news.

Drobe updated = Good

Any cosmetic or technical annoyances just don't register.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 12/11/08 2:58PM
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On Illustrated guide to setting up RPCEmu on Linux:

Excellent...that means it can be done. Key things of interest - ease of installation and speed.

I won't be able to be there - but if someone could perhaps post a report on Drobe....

It's kind of what I always wanted ever since I got my hands on an Acorn Pocketbook.

Hey thats only 14 years of waiting - who says patience doesn't pay off? ;-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 10/11/08 8:33PM
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On Illustrated guide to setting up RPCEmu on Linux:

I'd be interested to know how well this would work on an EeePC 4G.

I'm currently 1000 miles from my RPC so I'm unable to get the ROMs at the mo.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 9/11/08 9:37PM
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On Welcome back to Drobe.co.uk:

I remember when Drobe was a site for some obscure app - when news stopped appearing here I felt as though I'd lost an old (somewhat eccentric) friend.

Good to have you back Drobe!

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 9/11/08 9:32PM
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On South East 2008 show round up:

OK....maybe all our troubles are over....

Or not :-)

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 04/11/08 5:23PM
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On South East 2008 show round up:

This is most definitely not the first time this has been discussed here. From what I remember, I've never heard a technical objection. Concern has always been that if an app could be used under the host OS, then this would reduce funding for the ROS equivalents.

Sadly we are in a different situation now. There is little to no funding for anything and in the current environment if you need to use a particular piece of software, you are going to use it - even if that means using a different OS entirely.

To put it another way - lack of catering for the times when you /have/ to use a non-ROS app is what causes people to leave the ROS environment. If they don't use ROS for work, then ROS becomes something that you boot up once in a blue moon for nostalgia - ring any bells?

On the other hand - if you could use that key app in a ROS desktop, you'd start using all your favorate apps - have !digitalCD pumping out your favorate music and use !Artworks to make your graphics... ROS could be your work environment again...and think of how much of an encouragement that would be to develop apps and utilities for ROS again.

We're only here because we love RISC OS. We just want a way to use it all the time - even when you /have/ to use an app on a different system.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 02/11/08 08:17AM
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On South East 2008 show round up:

I remember using a program that seemed to nab window contents from Win98 (running on the PC card) and stick it in a RISC OS window on the desktop. Result was that to the end user you were using Word/Excel on RISC OS.

It was clunky and slow (mostly due to the speed of the PC Card I think) and I preferred all the ROS apps anyway - but when I had to do a course at Uni that specifically required Excel - it did the trick.

Now a similar thing that could grab contents from the host OS (say Linux) and move it into a ROS window on VRPC (or ROOL's hopefully-not vaporware emu) - That would really hit the mark.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 01/11/08 6:30PM
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On South East 2008 show round up:

[link]

I've still got my fingers crossed for ROLF, despite it's "erratic" progress. The cold hard fact of my work is that I need to use OpenOffice on a laptop. Try doing that using RISC OS.

I'd love to stick with pure RISC OS...despite the ridicule of techies who mock it's under-hood gubbins...and the ridicule of plebs who freak out if the backdrop on their Windows machines gets changed when they're not looking.

To be perfectly frank RISC OS is the only GUI I have ever liked, and the only one that I've gone through an entire session without cursing. ROX doesn't cut it either.

OK ROLF is one heck of a long shot for my hopes but one day.... {sigh}

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 31/10/08 1:52PM
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On RISC OS-on-Linux project prepares live CD:

Any chance of a ROLF news RSS feed?

In anycase I hope Drobe will keep us informed of any future ROLF developments.

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 15/9/07 2:19PM
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On RISC OS-on-Linux project prepares live CD:

Wonderful!

I love RISC OS and want to use it all the time, but this is simply not possible. I've never had had that much cash and in any case my work demands a laptop. At present I have a venerable Risc PC dating from the last time I had real desposable income (aka student loan) and a relative's old Laptop running ROX.

ROX is good - it's gone from limping along to a pretty decent sim of the RISC OS way of doing things, over just the last few months - and it's a darn sight better than Windows. The only problem is that it's not RISC OS and can't run RISC OS apps.

Running VA on top of Windows is not satisfactory, even if I could justify a hundred quid for something that - no matter how many excuses I might make - I don't actually /need/.

ROLF looks like it has a long way to go but I think it is a welcome alternative to the current emulators.

Good luck Simon! If you get that Live CD going I'll be wanting one :-)!

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 9/9/07 3:39PM
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On An idiot's guide to making PDFs:

As a certified idiot it's interesting to see this article as I had similar frustrations a while ago. I'd thought to use PDF as a useful way to distribute documents between friends (linux), work (Windoze) and home (good old RISC OS). Sadly I did not have the patience demonstrated here and gave up for fear of taking out my frustration on my otherwise beloved Risc PC with a pick axe.

To date I stick to just reading PDFs.

Considering the fact that I am a user of the system and don't know the minutae of coding could I ask a stupid question? If something like Impression X ever sees the light of day please can we just have an "Export as PDF" option?

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 25/6/06 1:50PM
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On Wakefield 2006 show report:

The thought of people happily buying Windows machines while whistfuly thinking of a (presumed dead) RISC OS just hurts. Is there no way to at least convince them to include a copy of VA?

 is a RISC OS Userwrankin42 on 15/5/06 12:26PM
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